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UAE orders 48 trainer military aircraft from Italy
Agence France-Presse (AFP) ^ | 25-02-2009

Posted on 02/25/2009 6:21:57 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

UAE orders 48 trainer military aircraft

27 minutes ago

ABU DHABI (AFP) — The United Arab Emirates announced on Wednesday it is ordering 48 military M346 trainer aircraft from Italian manufacturer Alenia Aermacchi, the IDEX defence show spokesman said.

"Alenia Aermacchi will supply the UAE armed forces with 48 aircraft to cover its need for trainer planes," General Obeid al-Ketbi told reporters on the fourth day of the largest defence fair in the Middle East.

He said the total value of the deal is still to be decided.

"We still need some time to decide on the total value of the deal," he said, pointing out agreements are still to be reached over the requirements in the aircraft.

The Italian plane was chosen in competion with the T-50 aircraft, made by Korean Aerospace Industry (KAI), and the BAE Systems Hawk 128, Ketbi added.

The aircraft boasts avionics modelled upon those of new generation military aircraft such as the Eurofighter, Gripen, Rafale, F-16, F-18, F-22 and the future F-35, according to Alenia Aermacchi website.

The UAE air force fleet comprises F-16, Mirage 2000, and Hawk

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aj; armsbuildup; italy; uae

1 posted on 02/25/2009 6:21:57 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

On Pakistani advisement, I suppose:

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/couldaero-india-f-16s-bomb-india-inwar/23/23/349081/

Could the Aero India F-16s bomb India in a war?

Ajai Shukla / Yelahanka February 15, 2009, 0:43 IST

As the F-16 fighter roars into the skies of Bengaluru at the Aero India 09 show, all attention is on the wonderful aerobatics display it puts up, not on the tiny flag of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) on its tail. But the fact is, two of the four F-16s brought here by Lockheed Martin belong to the UAE Air Force.

Two intriguing questions immediately arise: Firstly, were these aircraft flown, perhaps just days ago, by combat pilots from the Pakistani Air Force (PAF), which has long sent its officers on deputation to fly UAE fighters? Would these very aircraft, now here on a sales pitch by Lockheed Martin, have been bombing India in the event of a war with Pakistan?

Senior Indian Air Force (IAF) officers have confirmed to Business Standard that, in any war with India, Pakistan could field up to two squadrons of F-16 aircraft borrowed from Arab nations, where its pilots are posted on deputation.

Air Commodore Jasjit Singh, who won a Vir Chakra in combat in 1971 and went on to head the Institute for Defence Studies and Analysis, points out, “This has happened regularly. In 1965, the Jordanian Air Force supplied F-104 Starfighters to Pakistan, one of which was even shot down by the IAF. In 1971, Turkey and Iran had supplied F-86 Sabres to the PAF. I wouldn’t rule out a repeat of this kind of help.”

Air Marshal Vinod Patney, the top air force field commander during the Kargil conflict, also believes the UAE Air Force F-16s could be used against India.

He reasons, “There are Pakistani pilots there in the UAE: fact. They are flying their F-16s: fact. There is a close military relationship between those countries: fact. I would not rule out Islamic solidarity coming into play in the event of a war with India.”

Clearly visible on the UAE Air Force F-16s on display in Bangalore is an extra fuel tank, just above the wing, specially built for the batch of F-16s ordered by the UAE. The IAF believes UAE asked Lockheed Martin for the extra range to allow the Pakistani pilots in the UAE to reach Indian targets, deliver their weapons, and then fly to a Pakistani base from where they could operate for the rest of the war.

Air Chief Marshal SC Tyagi, the IAF chief until 2007, recounts, “In the Arab-Israeli war in 1967, Pakistani pilots even flew Jordanian and Iraqi fighter aircraft in combat missions against the Israeli Air Force. One Bengali pilot from East Pakistan shot down two Israeli Mystere jets during that war. There was an agreement to help each other. But the world has moved on; it’s an open question whether such an agreement exists today.”

Lockheed Martin told Business Standard that they had no idea whether Pakistani pilots had recently flown the F-16s, now in Bangalore. Douglas Hartwick, CEO of Lockheed Martin India Pvt Ltd explained, “We just leased these planes from the UAE Air Force.”

India’s strategic community is concerned about F-16 aircraft being evaluated by India despite their being in service in Pakistan. Air Chief Marshal Fali Major, the air force chief, told a press conference at the Aero India that he was not concerned, as the IAF would equip the fighters that they bought (even if they were F-16s) very differently from the PAF, and use “home-grown” tactics while flying them. But when pressed on the issue he admitted, “I am not happy that someone else has something that I have. But that’s the way the world works.”


2 posted on 02/25/2009 6:24:32 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Well, the good news is that they’re doing it with our money...


3 posted on 02/25/2009 6:33:19 AM PST by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: Riodacat

How exactly?


4 posted on 02/25/2009 6:46:26 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Trainer from Italy? Training for what? maintenance?........................


5 posted on 02/25/2009 7:06:27 AM PST by Red Badger (Zimbabwe has removed 12 zeroes from its currency. We need to remove ONE from the White House......)
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To: Red Badger
Trainer from Italy?

Well yeah. Alenia Aermacchi has sold about 1000 jet trainers since the 60s

6 posted on 02/25/2009 7:25:09 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ( As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities. - D)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I hope their planes are better than their cars................


7 posted on 02/25/2009 9:57:57 AM PST by Red Badger (Zimbabwe has removed 12 zeroes from its currency. We need to remove ONE from the White House......)
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To: Red Badger

You mean Ferrari, Maserati, Lambo, and dont forget Ducati, Aprila and Benelli... I love a good Fix it again Tony joke as much as I love Found on road dead. Seriously do you think one of the top 10 richest indutrial countries on Earth cant beuild a decent computer, jet or automobile? here in Houston, the metro cars are made in Italy. Italy has built modules for the space station.


8 posted on 03/03/2009 8:56:49 PM PST by ffusco
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To: ffusco

Almost bought a used Maserati sedan (yes they make sedans) once. But it had bad twin turbos and would have cost more than the car was worth to fix............


9 posted on 03/04/2009 5:17:25 AM PST by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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