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Posted on 02/24/2009 9:47:52 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion

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Alas, The Constitution

The mind boggles, and then again, maybe it doesn't, having become what you might call boggle-proof over repeated assertions of federal government power to do this and do that, whatever you please, don't bother asking.

The newest proof -- anyway as of Monday -- was the Obama administration's plan to fix General Motors and Chrysler through bankruptcy filings and the Lord only knows what else.

At such a spectacle there wasn't room to wonder after the administration told the chairman of General Motors, Rick Wagoner, to scram, get lost.

Is there anything at all, we might ask at this dramatic passage in U.S. history, that the U.S. government doesn't feel fully empowered to do? Nothing suggests itself, which is a big part of the tragedy of our times.

I invite the reader to gaze higher than mere Events usually cause us to gaze, and to look at what is going on. Every supposed constitutional limit one can think of is falling without remark, far less protest. The American people seem to have made up their minds, presumably without bothering to exercise them, to the effect that the Constitution doesn't divide or limit power the way we were once taught.

That old piece of parchment carefully delineated powers. The federal government, by advance arrangement, could do specific things. Others it couldn't do. A role remained for the states, stipulated in the 10th amendment. Good taste and a healthy measure of modesty on the part of the executive and legislative branches were supposed to restrain the illegitimate exercise of powers illegitimately assumed.

Of course it never worked perfectly. Thomas Jefferson, anti-centralist as he was, stretched the meaning of the treaty power so that he might purchase Louisiana. It was a good lick, in many ways, but it showed that the Constitution, as a brake on the exercise of power, had its limits. Over the decades, the Constitution barely changed, save through the accretion of amendments like the one authorizing an income tax. What changed was the disposition of the Constitution's interpreters to decide that A Good Idea just had to be constitutional. Vigilance relaxed. Congress and the President got in the habit of doing pretty much what they wanted. Our luck was that much of the time they chose not to do the outrageous.

Like kick out a corporation executive? One could say that if Washington, D.C., was bankrolling GM, it could sure tell GM what to do. Some might recall under the circumstances the famous photo of two National Guardsmen, in 1944, carrying out of his Chicago office the obstreperous chairman of Montgomery Ward, Sewell Avery, who had refused a Roosevelt administration edict to allow unionization.

Well, it was wartime, you know. Earlier, The New Deal had started telling farmers what they could plant -- and couldn't plant. It was an emergency, you know. A problem with emergencies, like the present one, is that the habits of command and obedience become institutionalized. Freedom retreats and only occasionally dares stick its nose back inside the door. Not so government. Government never retreats. The more we ask of it, the more it gives. The more it gives, the more latitude for action it demands -- the more oversight of our affairs.

Mr. Justice James W. Reynolds' dire and dour formulation from New Deal days -- "the Constitution is gone" -- could ring in our ears like a funeral bell. Supposing that anyone remembered McReynolds and the now-quaint intention that in a free society measures to limit government were of the essence.

Alas, Sewell Avery. Alas, Rick Wagoner. Alas, Mr. Madison, Mr. Adams, Mr. Jefferson -- the whole powdered-wig contingent that worked to pen government, that bumptious contrivance, behind a wall of carefully specified duties and powers, in the interest of keeping freedom free. I somehow don't imagine that at the end of the present emergency we are going to find freedom nearly as free as it was just weeks -- - count 'em, weeks -- ago.

COPYRIGHT 2009 CREATORS SYNDICATE, INC.


101 posted on 03/31/2009 10:54:53 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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This thread just happened to show up on April 1 creating some consternation and head scratching in addition to shrieks of FOUL!!! A good time was had by all, well, most all...

TEXAS ORDINANCE OF SECESSION(Texas is going for it!)

102 posted on 04/06/2009 10:40:09 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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The Keystone of the Constitution

Monday, April 06, 2009 10:44:21 AM · by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus · 27 replies · 662+ views
Conservative Underground ^ | 31 March 2009 | Tim Dunkin
If there is one thing upon which the stability and order of our society rests, it is the rule of law. Without law, you have no order and you have no boundaries. Instead, you have chaos. You have the “state of nature” envisioned by Locke and other Anglo-Enlightenment political theorist, where each man is a law unto himself, and is at constant war with each other man. Indeed, it was in a commonwealth specifically united by law that Locke thought it best for mankind to live peacefully and prosperously.

103 posted on 04/07/2009 10:05:54 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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Idaho Senate Tells Feds to Back Off

Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:41:23 PM · by ForGod'sSake · 8 replies · 173+ views
Fox12Idaho.com KTRV ^ | April 7, 2009 | AP
BOISE, Idaho (AP) - The Senate used a voice vote to pass a resolution telling the federal government to respect Idaho's sovereignty.Sen. Monty Pearce, a Payette Republican, on Tuesday compared laws protecting states' rights to rules that govern sporting events, then accused Congress of ignoring those when it passes bills mandating states to do certain things under threat of lost funding or other punishment.

104 posted on 04/07/2009 10:07:56 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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N.D. House approves sovereignty measure

BISMARCK — The state House OK’d a resolution Tuesday affirming North Dakota’s rights as a sovereign state after a debate that one member compared to pre-Civil War secessionist talk.

House Concurrent Resolution 3063 passed on a 52-42 vote. It invokes the U.S. Constitution’s 10th Amendment, which says “powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states, respectively, or to the people.”

105 posted on 04/07/2009 10:11:41 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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Montana Poised to Buck Federal Gun Control

Tuesday, April 07, 2009 6:26:56 PM · by neverdem · 106 replies · 2,665+ views
Flathead Beacon ^ | 04-05-09 | Kahrin Deines
Associated Press HELENA – Montana-made guns may form the basis for a court showdown over states' rights if the governor signs a bill to release some firearms in the state from federal regulation. The proposed law aims to exempt firearms, weapons components and ammunition made in Montana and kept in Montana from federal gun laws. Since the state has few gun laws of its own, the legislation would allow some gunowners and sellers in the state to skirt registration, licensing requirements and background checks entirely...

Gun fight with the feds in Big Sky Country?


106 posted on 04/09/2009 8:04:58 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:16:05 PM · by lqcincinnatus · 52 replies · 1,075+ views
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR ^ | April 9, 2009 | Texas governor Rick Perry
HCR 50 Reiterates Texas’ Rights Over Powers Not Otherwise Granted to Federal Government AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry today joined state Rep. Brandon Creighton and sponsors of House Concurrent Resolution (HCR) 50 in support of states’ rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. “I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said. “That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights...

107 posted on 04/11/2009 9:09:51 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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Is Texas A Terror State?

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:01:19 PM · by Scanian · 84 replies · 1,531+ views
The American Thinker ^ | April 14, 2009 | Jim Byrd
According to the Department of Homeland Security, Texas fits the Department's profile of potential domestic terrorism described in their newly released report titled, " Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment".

108 posted on 04/15/2009 10:54:58 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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CONTENT NOTE: FR's own AnnaZ, the pretty lady in the red T-Shirt to Perry's right was the second questioner. Killer question! Not a bad answer either. Her post and video link HERE.

Governor Says Texas Can Leave Union If It Wants (with audio)

Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:07:20 PM · by Free ThinkerNY · 105 replies · 1,459+ views
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 15, 2009
"Texas is a unique place. When we came into the union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that," Perry said. "My hope is that America and Washington in particular pays attention. We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, who knows what may come of that."

109 posted on 04/15/2009 11:02:45 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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The seal is broken on seceding from the Union and is now mainstream discussion.

Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:50:11 AM · by rrdog · 382 replies · 4,119+ views
U4prez.com ^ | 4/16/2009 | Eric Gurr
What is the root of the secessionist movement? The driving force at the grass roots level is of course money. Many Americans are rightly disturbed by the transfer of their wealth, and the wealth of their children, to companies that made risky investments, or were poorly managed. This is new territory for the government. The transfer started under George W. Bush with his bank bailout and auto makers bailouts, and the Obama administration has really poured on the spending with additional bailouts and stimulus packages. Citizens of more fiscally conservative states are finding that there money is being redirected from...

111 posted on 04/19/2009 10:38:13 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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States’ Rights: Montana Sovereignty Resolution Dies

Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:13:34 PM · by erkyl · 27 replies · 1,250+ views
Right Side of Life ^ | 4/23/09 | Phil
The last couple of weeks have proven lively for the great State of Montana. HR3 effectively died in the State House.

112 posted on 04/25/2009 10:10:38 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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Henry vetoes legislative resolution (Oklahoma 10th amendment)

Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:52:55 PM · by GoldStandard · 6 replies · 329+ views
Tulsa World ^ | 04/24/2009 | Barbara Hoberock
Gov. Brad Henry on Friday vetoed a measure that he said suggested that Oklahoma should return federal tax dollars and that federal officials had violated the U.S. Constitution and committed crimes against the states. Billed as an expression of support for the 10th Amendment, House Joint Resolution 1003 made a number of allegations without explanation or evidence, the Governor’s Office said. The 10th Amendment states that powers not granted to the national government or prohibited to the states are reserved for the states or the people.

113 posted on 04/25/2009 10:12:52 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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New Oklahoma Sovereignty Resolution

Saturday, May 02, 2009 12:29:37 AM · by ForGod'sSake · 58 replies · 1,716+ views
Tenth Amendment Center ^ | May 1, 2009 | Staff

In response to Governor Henry’s veto of House Joint Resolution 1003, Oklahoma State Rep. Charles Key has reintroduced the resolution as House Concurrent Resolution 1028. Passage in both the House and Senate on a concurrent resolution will not require signature from the governor. Introduced on April 29, 2009, HCR1028 is “A Concurrent Resolution claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over certain powers; serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates; providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed; and directing distribution.”


114 posted on 05/06/2009 10:34:48 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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A Bill to Exempt Firearms Manufacturers from Federal Regulation in Texas

Monday, May 04, 2009 8:32:20 AM · by marktwain · 62 replies · 1,684+ views
Texas Legislature ^ | 4 May, 2009 | na
By: Berman H.B. No. 1863 A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT relating to exempting the intrastate manufacture of a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition from federal regulation. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS: SECTION 1. FINDINGS. (a) The Legislature of the State of Texas makes findings as stated in this section. (b) The Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the federal government elsewhere in the constitution and reserves to the state and people of Texas certain powers as they were...

115 posted on 05/06/2009 10:43:06 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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The States Can Do It. They can restore the Constitution

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 4:28:07 AM · by Tolerance Sucks Rocks · 48 replies · 848+ views
Sterling H. Saunders | May 5, 2009 | Sterling H. Saunders
The States still have the power and the means to bring the Federal Government into compliance with the intent of the Founders, but to do so they must be willing to kill the Sacred Cow of American politics - democracy.

116 posted on 05/06/2009 10:49:46 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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House bypasses governor’s veto to claim Oklahoma’s sovereignty

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:39:50 AM · by NoObamaFightForConservatives · 48 replies · 1,193+ views
newsok.com ^ | May 5, 2009 | MICHAEL MCNUTT
Although Gov. Brad Henry vetoed similar legislation 10 days earlier, House members Monday again approved a resolution claiming Oklahoma’s sovereignty. Unlike House Joint Resolution 1003, House Concurrent Resolution 1028 does not need the governor’s approval. The House passed the measure 73-22. It now goes to the Senate. "We’re going to get it done one way or the other,” said the resolutions’ author, Rep. Charles Key, R-Oklahoma City. "I think our governor is out of step.”

117 posted on 05/06/2009 10:52:25 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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Your local Sheriff, the 10th Amendment and the Orders We Will Not Obey

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:47:31 PM · by RightSideNews · 34 replies · 1,093+ views
Right Side News ^ | May 6, 2009 | Jonathon Winters
May 6, 2009 Sheriff Richard Mack states this in his video and here is an exerpt followed by his video presentation: (more on his website) "My name is Richard Mack....the founding fathers established a system that would keep the federal government impotent. This is the time to reenact that. The 10th Amendment basically tells the federal government if you ever go outside Article I, Section 8 where the Constitution delineates and details what they can and cannot do

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Is Tennessee next? (10th Amendment,2nd Amendment)

Saturday, May 09, 2009 10:14:53 AM · by marktwain · 31 replies · 989+ views
Wisconsin Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 8 May, 2009 | Gene German
Tomorrow, the legislature will vote on the Tennessee Firearms Freedom Act. This proposed law is very similar to the law exempting firearms manufactured and kept within the state from federal regulation that was recently enacted in Montana. Barrett firearms are big guns manufactured in Tennessee and are among the guns in the Congress sights in HR 1022 to be banned. http://www.barrettrifles.com/ Now you have one more reason to move to Nashville. It appears this bill has enough support to pass.

119 posted on 06/01/2009 10:27:05 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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New State Sovereignty Movement Mobilizing

Monday, May 11, 2009 11:42:17 AM · by AmericanHunter · 52 replies · 1,821+ views
Right Side News ^ | 5-9-09 | Henry Lamb
The Tenth Amendment is not all that hard to understand: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Since even Harvard graduates can easily understand this simple language, the fact that it is so blatantly ignored must mean that the President, and the majority of Congress, rejects this portion of the Constitution they swore to defend.

120 posted on 06/01/2009 10:28:38 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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