[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“It is still chilling to think that the Vatican once had a say in scientific matters.”

It did? When? Does the US government have a say in scientific matters when it bans the cloning of human beings?

“I’m glad we have progressed, and the theocrats are losing big time.”

Yeah, that starry future with human clones, cyborg enhanced human brains, DNA threads spliced free of diseases, organ harvesting, etc....yeah, that’s so much to look forward to.

[GunRunner]

Are you a theocrat? Do I have to submit to your religious beliefs when it comes to science and technology?

Yeah, go ahead and use your straw men of cloning and "organ harvesting" (which is a stupid myth created by people opposed to organ donation).

I look forward to a day when 6,000 year old Earthers share the fate of the Flat Earth Society and the Temperance League.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Regrettably, (now) TV news, Washington DC politicians, environmental extremists, “envirocrats” and socialists DO have control of scientific thought, propaganda, and “freedom of speech.”

Control of the money for science.

Control of the printing of science.

Control of the research hiring and firings that control future science research.

Control of the classroom, movies, news media, and print media.

They are wrong on many areas - but have a full envirocratic control over may be printed and “peer reviewed.” They can't (so far) control the facts, but they are printing the lies (the doctrine) they want promoted.