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1 posted on 02/19/2009 4:06:48 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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2 posted on 02/19/2009 4:08:57 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Isn’t that interesting that it is the position that Sarah Palin advocates and has taken so much heat on from fellow politicians and the MSM.


3 posted on 02/19/2009 4:09:54 PM PST by techno
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“but also the scientific evidence against it.”

As worded that means NOT teaching ID.


4 posted on 02/19/2009 4:13:04 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: GodGunsGuts

None of these excerpted questions are controversial. Any scientific issue should cover evidence both for and against.

But evidence against evolution, whatever that may be, does not equate to creationism.


6 posted on 02/19/2009 4:13:36 PM PST by mlo
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To: GodGunsGuts
“The Bible was America’s basic textbook in all fields.” “Education is useless without the Bible” ...[Noah Webster. Our Christian Heritage p.5]
7 posted on 02/19/2009 4:15:09 PM PST by tflabo
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All well and good until it comes down to what constitutes "scientific evidence for and against".

Saying you think both sides of the issue should be discussed and weighed objectively is one thing. Actually doing it proves to be quite another matter.

9 posted on 02/19/2009 4:16:53 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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The word ‘Universal’ means all-encompassing...hence the schools of learning are called ‘Universities’. Any knowledge that is suppressed is pure censorship. If the theory of Evolution proponents are so secure in their ‘science’ then why should the concepts of ‘creationism’ be such a threat?


13 posted on 02/19/2009 4:21:54 PM PST by tflabo
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This poll measures something that is not controversial. It's not surprising that most people want different scientific evidence discussed in the science classroom.
23 posted on 02/19/2009 4:36:16 PM PST by firebrand
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To: GodGunsGuts

In our home school I teach my kids what evolution is, often using the evolution scientist’s own writings, so that they have an antithesis to our thesis that creation science is correct.

Having been raised to believe in evolution I have no qualms discussing its main teachings as well as contrasting it to the creationist view.

Evolutionists, in general, do not seem to share the same confidence and refuse to even mention the main creation science teachings, even if only critically.


33 posted on 02/19/2009 4:45:55 PM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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I wish they would ask if people favor/oppose school vouchers in this kind of poll. It kind of seems like the question of what we indoctrinate kids with skips over the question of if we should be indoctrinating kids in school to begin with. I think the ultimate answer to the evolution/id debate (as well as a ton of others) should be left up to the market and parents rather then a bunch of pointy headed educrats.
36 posted on 02/19/2009 4:48:17 PM PST by cmonkey
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The United Church of Darwin does not allow any disagreement.


51 posted on 02/19/2009 4:57:10 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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(Overwhelming support for teaching both sides of Evolution debate)

NO WHERE in your link did it propose teaching 'another side of the Evolution debate'.

70 posted on 02/19/2009 5:09:14 PM PST by ColdWater
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I’m of the opinion that kids would get a lot more out of science classes if they didn’t waste any time on origins. The subject of origins isn’t required for teaching applicable facts of science, including biology. The most brilliant cell biologist on earth could be completely void of opinions on origins, and it wouldn’t make a diddly-squat bit of difference. The same goes for any of the various fields of botany or zoology. I’m not trying to get anyone riled up here, just stating my opinion. Parents can teach their kids creationism or evolution, whichever one represents their faith.


74 posted on 02/19/2009 5:11:51 PM PST by pallis
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The title of this thread is somewhat misleading. By inserting “Overwhelming support for teaching both sides of Evolution debate”, one may assume that the “sides” in question are those that are generally debated here: evolution vs. creation. However, the survey instead questions whether scientific evidence should be presented in support of and in oppostiion to evolution. Of course it should—that’s good science. As creation has no scientific foundation, it is really not the counterbalance to evolution that the title implies.


126 posted on 02/19/2009 6:55:07 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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I guess I don’t understand why creationism and evolution have to necessarily be at odds with each other, could it be that evolution is the way God worked.


189 posted on 02/20/2009 6:24:50 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Interesting that the people retain a much healthier dose of common sense than the scientific community and “evolution” proponents.

Most people aren’t ready to completely surrendet to naturalism and the nihilism that follows.

Of course, many are content to hold completely contradictory positions within themselves, believing “evolution,” but also trying to make-up some meaning or purpose for themselves and humanity in their completely impersonal, chemical, mechanical universe.

From a major scientific publication:

http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2009/02/13/key-to-origin-of-universe-could-be-neutrinos-and-project-x/

It begins like this.

“You shouldn’t be here. Not just reading this blog, but anywhere.

You shouldn’t exist. Period.

Moments after the big bang, equal amounts of matter and antimatter floated through the universe and when particles of each collided, they annihilated each other, leaving nothing but free floating energy in their paths.

Suddenly something changed, allowing for more matter than antimatter. The little extra bit that escaped annihilation clumped together and over time planets… and eventually you formed.

But billions of years later no one knows exactly how that happened.”


191 posted on 02/20/2009 7:25:11 AM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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I support teaching Biblical young-earth Creationism only if the class points out that YEC supports an earth-centered universe, a 4-cornered flat earth, and a 6000ish year old planet, all of which have been definitively, scientifically disproven.


194 posted on 02/20/2009 9:05:24 AM PST by Longdriver
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I would replace all science and social studies programs in the curriculum with a class on logic, rhetoric, and critical thinking.

In the suddenly emptied administrative offices, I would install liraries of contentious opinionated books for the students to dissect.

The only way out of the forest is through the trees.


197 posted on 02/20/2009 9:13:34 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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How big of a ship would it take, to have room for all known species of animals on board? Two each.

Creation science should answer the questions of how many species, and how big a boat (ship).

Did the technology exist at the time, to build a vessel of whatever size the scientists calculate?

Name the species.

I think my question is very legitimate, from a logical standpoint.


210 posted on 02/20/2009 11:48:06 PM PST by truth_seeker
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