OK 10th Amendment (State Sovereignty) Resolution Passes State House 83-13

The Right Side of Life ^ | February 18, 2009 | Phil

[Frank_Discussion]

As someone else said, these sovereignty declarations are Fair Warning to FedGov, and are springing up like mushrooms.

It has more to do with the states NOT enforcing Fed regulations that are stomping on state’s rights.

If Feds try to enforce the new rules in attempted contravention of the declarations, the states can tell them to pound sand. It is up to the FedGov to decide how forcefully they try to attempt contravention.

Interesting times are incoming at Mach 2.

[Frank_Discussion]

Let me also add: Even the Roman Empire fell, did you think this country would last forever without internal strife? I’m not saying we are witnessing the end of America, but I dare say that the solutions that lead to the country’s continued existence are getting funneled to something other than passive fuming.

The states are pushing back, as they should.

[LearsFool]

Well said.

The Civil War seems like ancient history, but it was as near in time to the formation of the U.S. as the Great Depression is to the present day. In other words, the nation was still young when it nearly fell apart.

Our current situation feels reminiscent of the years prior to the Revolutionary War, which saw many diplomatic overtures from the colonies to King George, attempts at reason and reconciliation to stave off bloodshed - yet with legitimate complaints and claims to be addressed.

[DoughtyOne]

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[theBuckwheat]

My suggestion to state reps who want to pursue this topic is to start to wean their states from as many federal programs as possible.

Recall that during the 55 mph speed limit, Montana's legislature came close to passing a bill to decline federal highway funds and thus free themselves from the strings that were attached to their use. The federal bureaucracy had a fit, basically trying to seriously say that a state could not refuse these funds, and therefore refuse federal mandates.

If we are going to reduce the federal burden, we are going to have to learn to live without federal funds. If a program is really important, then citizens will be willing to pay the necessary taxes. We could be free of federal highway rules if we would accept paying enough gasoline tax to make up for what the feds have levied.

I am willing to pay 40 cents more for a gallon of gasoline so I can declare my freedom from the federal government's ham-fisted control of my state's highways. It won't take very many other states that similarly decline to collect and pay the fuel tax before Congress will get the message.

[ForGod'sSake]

Thanks TruthConquers. Color me confused!!! I KNOW there was a vote barely a week ago in the Oklahoma house that was 92 -3 in favor of this resolution, so what am I missing? Seems like I read this particular vote was on a THIRD reading? Maybe some OK Freepers can explain. I really hate to ping the list on an item that may or may not be a new development but since I can't seem to locate the info on an earlier vote, here goes:

Please ~ping~ me to articles relating to the 10th Amendment so I can engage the pinger.

Click the 10th Amendment button for all articles tagged with keyword "10thamendment"

I continue to add names to the ping list as I run across others I find participating on similar threads. If you want off the list just say so.

[MrB]

Here is an analysis:
http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/18/states-rights-ride-again/

These are resolutions, not laws, sort of like a Mother’s Day recognition. The left and the feds will also assert that the courts have rendered the 10th amendment basically a dead article.

But it’s only a dead article if we let them treat it that way. We don’t have to.

[MrB]

They ARE just resolutions without much weight,

but they indeed are a “first step”.

[gargoyle]

...Lincoln will order the Union army to fire on Fort Sumter...

...Sorry, couldn’t resist. Most likely a similar senario from the feds, again. They don’t give a shht about no stinkin’ constitution!!!

[ronnyquest]

States should not HAVE to pass such resolutions, but it’s good for us to remind the federal government through legal procedure that States are in charge.

[MrB]

The Constitution, as a concept,

is a CONTRACT between the sovereign states and the federal government.

The NH resolution lays it out that if the fedgov violates this contract, NH’s requirments under that contract are considered nullified.

[ichabod1]

I don’t understand what you’re saying. We don’t need to be getting into another situation like government schools, where even if you send your kid to private school, you still have to pay for public. If we decline fedfunds, we need to not pay that portion of our fedtaxes.

[ichabod1]

You got to get the people talking about it before anything can be done with teef. These resolutions get the idea on the table, like the rockets red glare over Fort Sumpeter.

[MrB]

It’s definitely a step in the right direction.

Now the feds respond by ignoring the resolutions and acting like they normally do - passing unconstitutional laws superceding the rights of the states to make their own laws.

Then the states have to respond again. They MUST respond with a refusal to enforce. Then the ball’s back in the fed’s court.

[ForGod'sSake]

Seems I was a little off on the 92 - 3 vote. It was last year's vote in the OK house. So, for whatever reasons while the movement grows around the country, I'd wager the Dims in the OK House are starting to feel some pressure from their libtard constituents, such as they are...

Oklahoma Tenth Amemendment Resolution Redux

Tenth Amendment-Oklahoma says the “Sooner” the better.

Last June news of the Tenth Amendment Resolution passed overwhelmingly by the Oklahoma house, went viral online, blazing across the Internet passed excitedly from one freedom loving American to another. State Representative Charles Key’s robust resolution, intended to remind the federal government of their clearly enumerated powers per the Bill of Rights, captured the interest and goodwill of people across the nation.

It’s back and more necessary than ever.

Rep. Key put out a letter Dec. 22, 2008 that states;

“I want to give you an update on the 10th Amendment Resolution. Last year the bill passed the Oklahoma House 92-3. It was not heard in the Senate because the Senate Democrats refused to let it be heard. I have refiled the bill for the upcoming session as HJR 1003.”

___________________________________________________________________________

Charles Key has said “The more we stand by and watch the federal government get involved in areas where it has no legal authority, we kill the Constitution a little at a time. The last few decades, the Constitution has been hanging by a thread.”
He’s exactly right. The national government has indicated its intent to limit our unalienable rights by strong-arm tactics as illustrated by mandates such as the Real ID Act which would force us to submit to the collection of personal, biometric identifiers. That data is intended to be shared not only on a national level but internationally as well. Now, it looks like they have backup plan cooking, S.717 Identification Security Enhancement Act of 2007. The states can apply for grants on this one is they act like good boys and girls. If the states accept that then they will have sold out our Bill of Rights.

Representative Key’s letter continues;

It is not guaranteed that the bill will be heard or passed. This is where I need your help. I need you and everyone who cares about preserving our constitution to contact your state representative and state senator and tell them you want them to support HJR 1003.

If you live in a state other than Oklahoma, please contact your state representative or state senator and ask them to file a 10th Amendment Resolution in your state. If you do have a legislator in your state that is interested in sponsoring a bill, please let my legislative assistant know and we will be in communication with them. My assistant’s name is Sharon Brown. Contact information for Ms. Brown and my office is:
sharon.brown@okhouse.gov or 405-557-7354.

Thank you for your efforts and help in saving our constitutional form of government.

Sincerely,
Charles Key

CK:sb

“bind him down from mischief with the chains of the Constitution.”
Thomas Jefferson

So, Okies should be heating up the phone lines and email chains to their state senators?

[OafOfOffice]

This morning 6 states have said they want to see what STRINGS Obama will place on the stimulus funding. I have always felt the money would be for control of the states.

I think Idaho, Lousiana, Texas, Mississippi, Alaska, S Carolina want to see conditions. They are all concerned that the welfare program costs will run out in 2 years and they will have to add them to their budgets because entitlement poachers will not want to give up the free lunch.

We are screwed in California with Pelosi, Waters, Boxer and Frankenstein.

[wastedyears]

OK is going to lead the way in this fight.

[OafOfOffice]

Don’t forget, if 34 states pass resolutions calling for Constitutional amendments, Obama’s, Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Reid, Soros will have make sure the Constitution is destroyed with a Consitutional convention. It’s another agenda Obama promised.

[KrisKrinkle]

50-State Secession

"50-State Secession" is a contradiction in terms that makes us look foolish.

When the States replaced the Articles of Confederation with the US Constitution and instituted a new government, there was no secession.

I think secession on a State by State or even regional basis would turn North America into a continent full of third world countries. Also, pretty soon the kind of people we don't like would take over one or more of them and they would go on the path of conquest.

Franklin was correct: "We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately."

We won't hang separately in the literal sense, but figuratively, that's another matter.

[MrB]

It’s great that they passed this, but they are by no means the first to do so, you know.