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Greenspan backs bank nationalisation [joins Graham, McCain, Obama, and others] [Socialist agenda]
Financial Times ^ | 2009-02-18

Posted on 02/17/2009 5:48:34 PM PST by rabscuttle385

BY KRISHNA GUHA & EDWARD LUCE

Washington. The US government may have to nationalise some banks on a temporary basis to fix the financial system and restore the flow of credit, Alan Greenspan, the former Federal Reserve chairman has told the Financial Times.

In an interview with the FT Mr Greenspan, who for decades was regarded as the high priest of laisser-faire capitalism, said nationalisation could be the least bad option left for policymakers.

”It may be necessary to temporarily nationalise some banks in order to facilitate a swift and orderly restructuring,” he said. “I understand that once in a hundred years this is what you do.”

Mr Greenspan’s comments capped a frenetic day in which policymakers across the political spectrum appeared to be moving towards accepting some form of bank nationalisation.

“We should be focusing on what works,” Lindsey Graham, a Republican senator from South Carolina, told the FT. “We cannot keep pouring good money after bad.” He added, “If nationalisation is what works, then we should do it.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: alangreenspan; bank; banking; banks; biggovernment; bushbailout; federalreserve; financialcrisis; marxism; nationalization; panicof2009; porkulus; rats; rinos; socialism; socialistagenda
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To: DuncanWaring
Is there any limit to the value of the securities they can buy,

No.

121 posted on 02/18/2009 5:34:16 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: rabscuttle385

I see they have Greenspan out shilling for them. He’s been a big part of the problem for almost two decades.


122 posted on 02/18/2009 5:36:54 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Toddsterpatriot

In that case, instead of GM playing silly games with Congress and Recovery Plans, wouldn’t it be simpler to just issue 10 billion shares of new stock and sell it to the Fed through one of these “Primary Dealers”?

Can everyone in the country incorporate themselves, issue a million shares of stock at $1 each in an IPO through a Primary dealer, sell it to the Fed, and we’ll all be millionaires?


123 posted on 02/18/2009 5:46:25 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: jersey117

http://www.cnbc.com/id/29246420

I’m not sure Greenspan actually recommended nationalization of banks. See above.


124 posted on 02/18/2009 5:47:09 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: rabscuttle385
The US government may have to nationalise some banks on a temporary basis...

And the Chancellor promises to return power back to the Senate after the emergency has passed...

125 posted on 02/18/2009 5:47:28 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Unless people rise up we are going to end up like Venzuela.
What in the hell can we do?


126 posted on 02/18/2009 6:04:07 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: DuncanWaring
In that case, instead of GM playing silly games with Congress and Recovery Plans, wouldn’t it be simpler to just issue 10 billion shares of new stock and sell it to the Fed through one of these “Primary Dealers”?

They could do that and it would be simpler but it would be a bad idea.

Can everyone in the country incorporate themselves, issue a million shares of stock at $1 each in an IPO through a Primary dealer, sell it to the Fed, and we’ll all be millionaires?

You could try, but the Fed probably wouldn't buy.

127 posted on 02/18/2009 6:35:59 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: JasonC
What few of the populist knuckle-draggers are willing to face up to and admit, is that the entire episode begins witn epidemic deadbeat behavior by the politicians' favorites mainstreet voters, and all of the rest of it is merely those pols seeking to appease their deadbeat masters by repealing the laws of economics.

What are you talking about? How did "mainstream voters" spend trillions of stockholders' money on dubious or worthless assets?

128 posted on 02/18/2009 6:38:21 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

So you’re saying the Fed could do that if they were so inclined.

How is that different from “printing money”, other that the fact that one involves actually getting paper and putting ink on it, and the other is simply a matter of typing some numbers into a computer somewhere?


129 posted on 02/18/2009 6:39:12 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
How did "mainstream voters" spend trillions of stockholders' money on dubious or worthless assets?

Defaulted mortgages? Hello?

130 posted on 02/18/2009 6:40:50 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: DuncanWaring
So you’re saying the Fed could do that if they were so inclined.

Yes.

How is that different from “printing money”,

It's not.

131 posted on 02/18/2009 6:41:34 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: rabscuttle385

I understand what they’re saying talking about the “Swedish model” of grabbing the bank, nationalizing it, restructuring it, and then re-privatizing it. If I thought this government would actually DO that, the concept might not give me the willies. But I don’t trust them one inch; they’ve proven, regardless of party, that once they’re given something, they will NEVER let it go. If they nationalize banks, those banks will never be properly re-privatized, ever again.

}:-)4


132 posted on 02/18/2009 6:41:53 AM PST by Moose4 (Hey RNC. Don't move toward the middle. MOVE THE MIDDLE TOWARD YOU.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; DuncanWaring
You could try, but the Fed probably wouldn't buy.

The Fed only buys junk from its buddies.

133 posted on 02/18/2009 6:42:39 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: rabscuttle385

Have you ever driven through a neighborhood and thought to
yourself, “Wow I wonder what kind of job that person has?”
Maybe a few bankers should have said the same thing.


134 posted on 02/18/2009 6:49:56 AM PST by TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa (Just so you know, we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Kenya.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
How did "mainstream voters" spend trillions of stockholders' money on dubious or worthless assets?

Defaulted mortgages? Hello?

I see. "Mainstream voters" forced investors to buy bad assets, and therefore they own the irresponsible investors' liabilities. Let's blame the victims.

Check your reasoning. Most mortgage holders are not defaulting. Yes, some home buyers contributed to the problem, but saying most "mainstream voters" default on mortgages is preposterous.

135 posted on 02/18/2009 6:52:04 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
I see. "Mainstream voters" forced investors to buy bad assets,

"Mainstream voters" defaulted on mortgages.

Yes, some home buyers contributed to the problem, but saying most "mainstream voters" default on mortgages is preposterous.

Most? Who said most?

136 posted on 02/18/2009 6:59:00 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: rabscuttle385

What I find amazing about Greenspan is that he was at one time an Ayn Rand disciple. And now he finds himself as a player in a real life Atlas Shrugged - another Wesley Mouch. Quite a transformation.


137 posted on 02/18/2009 7:05:07 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"Mainstream voters" defaulted on mortgages.

Some did, but you are ignoring the irresponsible investors' role. And you believe it's our responsibility to keep funding them, no matter what they do with the TARP money.

Most? Who said most?

OK, you admit it's not most. Your choice of words "mainstream voters" is dubious then.

138 posted on 02/18/2009 7:19:34 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: jwalsh07
A pox on their houses.

Seconded.

All in favor?

___________________________________

Forget that....A pox on everything they own, and everything they cherish.
139 posted on 02/18/2009 7:58:46 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Obama destroying America...it sickens me people still think he is great and r so completely blind)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Your choice of words "mainstream voters" is dubious then.

Wasn't my choice of words.

140 posted on 02/18/2009 8:06:48 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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