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Judges: Torture, Abuses Undermine Values in U.S., U.K.
The Washington Post ^ | February 16, 2009 | Kevin Sullivan

Posted on 02/17/2009 12:17:26 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner

An international group of judges and lawyers is warning that systemic torture and other abuses in the global "war on terror" have "undermined cherished values" of civil rights in the United States, Britain and other nations.

"We have been shocked by the damage done over the past seven years by excessive or abusive counterterrorism measures in a wide range of countries around the world," said Arthur Chaskalson, a member of the International Commission of Jurists, in a statement announcing results of a three-year study of counterterrorism measures since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

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Although the jurists' report covers practices in about 40 countries, it pays special attention to practices in the United States, and it outlines a broad repudiation of anti-terrorism policies of the administration of President George W. Bush

"Whilst the outgoing US administration was understandably aggrieved at the horrendous attacks of 9/11, it is possible to see, especially with hindsight, that many of its responses to the terrible tragedy were ill-advised," the report states.

The report said that Bush's decision to equate acts of terror with acts of war was "legally and conceptually flawed" and had done "immense damage" to the standing of international law.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; gitmo; terrorism; torture
So what about the recent spate of Islamic beheadings that have gone on in recent weeks, especially that of the Polish engineer....
1 posted on 02/17/2009 12:17:26 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
An international group of judges and lawyers ...

Stopped reading right there.

2 posted on 02/17/2009 12:19:30 PM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

The world has BDS too.


3 posted on 02/17/2009 12:20:28 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Bozo Alert!


4 posted on 02/17/2009 12:20:44 PM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Should read: “A group of leftist, America-hating Judges....”


5 posted on 02/17/2009 12:23:18 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Torture is cutting off fingers and toes kind of stuff.

Dunking a head in water is NOT torture.

How many lives this saved will never be known but a lot more than these judges can count.

6 posted on 02/17/2009 12:23:20 PM PST by BillT (New Executive Order to abolish the WS Constitution to be signed to save the US Constitution)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
An international group of judges and lawyers

We should do exactly the opposite of any group that is described that way.
7 posted on 02/17/2009 12:23:28 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: BenLurkin
"Stopped reading right there."

I wish I had too, but the name "International Commission of Jurists" had me wondering if the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, or the band "Insane Clown Posse" had changed their name.

8 posted on 02/17/2009 12:25:44 PM PST by VR-21 ("If it's a vision of the future you want...")
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To: St. Louis Conservative
The International Commission of Jurists:


9 posted on 02/17/2009 12:26:00 PM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
If terrorists or Islamofascists were saying this, I might believe it.

Judges and lawyers. No way! Those people are FOS and wouldn't know the truth if it was biting them on the ass.

10 posted on 02/17/2009 12:26:33 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Have You Punched A Democrat Today? - Do it for the children.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

That’s funny, because my family is proud and comforted by the fact that we have brave men willing to do the ugly, but essential work that will eventually defeat the Satanic Islamists.

No, it is actually a sign of the maturity and wisdom of our civilization that we recognize the need to engage in these tactics when battling these utterly insane savages.


11 posted on 02/17/2009 12:26:45 PM PST by EyeGuy
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To: mbarker12474

Let one of these right honourable horses’ asses get beheaded and the rest of them will be whining for protection.


12 posted on 02/17/2009 12:27:22 PM PST by mathurine
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Someone please tell me what torture? The art classes, clean clothes and lines, showers, flushing toilets, books, movies, tv, prayer rugs, korans, soccer AC, heat, medical and dental care ..... unless you include Red Hot Chili Peppers as torture.


13 posted on 02/17/2009 12:27:39 PM PST by svcw (This maybe my last transmission - God have mercy on us.)
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To: mathurine
Let one of these right honourable horses’ asses get beheaded...

Agreed.

14 posted on 02/17/2009 12:31:04 PM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Britain Surrenders To Radical Islam, Can America Be Far Behind?

In a word...no.

15 posted on 02/17/2009 12:36:34 PM PST by prairiebreeze (These are the times that try men's souls.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

So - these guys have turned on the US and UK because they have wrapped up their UN funded studies of teeney tiny justice systems problems affecting the cherished values of our biggest critics - Russia Syria Iran China and North Korea?


16 posted on 02/17/2009 12:38:36 PM PST by silverleaf ("Men are not angered by mere misfortune but by misfortune conceived as injury" - Screwtape)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

And, Pray tell!
How have the practices of the Muslims effected THEIR “values”....


17 posted on 02/17/2009 12:45:34 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

And we should give so much as two s**ts about the opinions of international judges, because....? They can piss off.


18 posted on 02/17/2009 12:56:49 PM PST by ScottinVA (Make my world PURRRFECT, Lord Obama!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
An international group of judges and lawyers ...

Vermin. All of 'em.

19 posted on 02/17/2009 1:14:47 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: ScottinVA
I think we should brand them outlaws, then track them down and deal with them roughly.

The reason is that in their statement they did not mention the standard practices of the "other side" ~ beheadings, murdering civilians, hiding behind civilians in firefights, and so on that outrage all right minded people.

Proves this particular bunch of judges are AlQaida agents who deserve death.

20 posted on 02/17/2009 1:25:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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