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Breaking News: Former El Paso Border Patrol Agents Free From Prison (both free)
KFOX-TV ^ | 2-17-09

Posted on 02/17/2009 8:32:21 AM PST by STARWISE

At 3 a.m. mountain time, former Border Patrol agent Jose Compean was released from the Elkton Federal Prison in Elkton, Ohio. Former agent Ignacio Ramos was released about five hours later from the Phoenix Federal Prison in Phoenix, Ariz.

Ramos and Compean will officially be released from Federal Bureau of Prison custody on March 20th, but on Tuesday both were allowed to rejoin their families. They had been in prison since January 2007.

Ramos and Compean were in prison for shooting drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete Davila and then trying to cover it up.

On President Bush’s last day in office, Jan. 19, 2009, he commuted the sentences of the two former Border Patrol agents.

KFOX has a crew in Phoenix covering the reunion and we will have much more on KFOX News at Six, KFOX News at Nine, and kfoxtv.com.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; badshoot; borderagents; borderpatrol; compean; dirtycops; illegalimmigration; imigrantlist; immigrantlist; jackboots; ramos; sutton; thugs
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To: STARWISE; BrianE
I thought I read this morning that they were still under home detention for the duration of their term or was that in error?
101 posted on 02/17/2009 8:12:45 PM PST by tubebender (Why do they sterilize the needle for lethal injections?)
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To: tubebender

Out of prison .. home detention .. with their families.

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Compean, Ramos Held Under Home Confinement

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 – updated: 5:18 pm MST February 17, 2009

Former Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean will be held in “home confinement”, a form of house arrest, which means they’re still under Bureau of Prisons supervision.

On March 20 both will be free men.

Ramos and Compean are famous names that will be forever associated with a controversial shooting at the Mexican border.

Their families indicate the men will remain in the El Paso area in the near future.

But it’s clear these are families very distrustful of the government.

Relatives knew the men were to be released from the Ohio and Phoenix federal prisons Tuesday morning — but told only KFOX and a handful of close supporters.

They were worried the Bureau of Prisons would delay the men’s release if word got out too widely too quickly. They even ducked our cameras in Ohio.

KFOX got exclusive images of the family and interviews with Ramos’ wife in Phoenix.

Both men are eager to tell their stories, but KFOX was told they’re prohibited from doing so until at least March 20 — when they’re officially released from Bureau of Prisons custody.

http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/18735552/detail.html


102 posted on 02/17/2009 8:18:08 PM PST by STARWISE ( They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter))
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To: cbkaty; cubreporter; MeanWestTexan

There was an article explaining why it could not be a pardon at the time President Bush commuted their sentences. I don’t remember the details, but it was something in the law.


103 posted on 02/17/2009 8:29:03 PM PST by upchuck (I'm glad I'm old. Thus I can remember when America was a decent, moral, God fearing country.)
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To: STARWISE

Bush should have pardoned these two men and Gilmer Hernandez.


104 posted on 02/17/2009 9:08:45 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: upchuck

That is spin. The presidential pardon power is unconstrained. He didn’t want to pardon them.


105 posted on 02/17/2009 11:06:47 PM PST by Nephi (Like the failed promise of Fascism, masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism.)
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To: upchuck

I recall it, and recall the reason being the conviction was on appeal and they wanted to continue with the appeal for the purposes of clearing their names completely.


106 posted on 02/18/2009 7:14:14 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: upchuck

yeah, he comuted their sentences after how long??????????????


107 posted on 02/18/2009 9:04:23 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: Wolfstar
I totally and respectfully disagree. Bush did everything he could to appease the ruling families of Mexico, even to the extent of sending a hunter - killer team from the US MARSAHLS to "Dog" Chapman's home at oh'dark thirty.

His offense? He showed the world that even a wanted (in the US) sex offender could live openly in Mexico, with the right bribes.

108 posted on 02/18/2009 9:05:29 AM PST by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Thanks for the good news. Now the push for amnesty will be fierce. The anti illegal alien groups are trying to organize. Here’s some, unfortuately, FR won’t allow the article to be posted.

Enforcement group to announce agenda against Illegal alien amnesty
Examiner.com ^ | Feb. 17, 2009 | by Jim Kouri
http://www.examiner.com/x-2684-Law-Enforcement-Examiner~y2009m2d17-Enforcement-group-to-announce-agenda-against-Illegal-alien-amnesty


109 posted on 02/18/2009 9:10:41 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: upchuck

Sorry upchuck...didn’t mean for that post to come off so sarcastic. Just frustrated at how these things happen in the first place. Either way I’m happy they are home with their families. Have a nice day. :)


110 posted on 02/18/2009 9:14:40 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: AuntB
Now the push for amnesty will be fierce.

It's coming sooner or later. But if Obama can pass it now, I believe that would make it harder for him to pass his health care, since most of the amnestied would need the government to pay for their health care. And the actual numbers of the amnestied would become clearer.

IMO Obama would be stupid to push it now. His popularity seems to be going down, and he has to decide what to spend his "political capital" on. He has broken many campaign promises. Now he got their votes and he can double-cross them. In this case, I hope he does break his promise. He will probably find something or somebody to blame.

111 posted on 02/18/2009 1:05:39 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: STARWISE; All

Hallelujah, I’m so glad they are out earlier than was announced. That is not uncommon.

What a glorious day. I don’t know how I missed these threads yesterday. I was online quite a lot, and only turned on TV much later.

I’m so happy for these men and their families. Now, for a pardon for each one and we’ll be done with what was an awful mistake in prosecuting them.


112 posted on 02/18/2009 1:25:53 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us)
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To: Wolfstar

Over-reaction.


113 posted on 02/18/2009 1:28:00 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us)
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To: TomasUSMC

It is my understanding they could still receive a pardon, to completely clear their records.

However, there is no one to do it until Sarah becomes POTUS.


114 posted on 02/18/2009 1:29:11 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us)
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To: La Enchiladita
Over-reaction.

Not in the least. I am beyond sick and tired of seeing President Bush ripped here despite the fact that he did the best he could during THE most trying period in American history since WWII. Was his presidency perfect? Of course not! Only the youngest children expect to find perfection anywhere in this world.

I'm not excusing those areas where GWB's administration made mistakes. What I am looking for here -- at long last -- is balance and fairness toward the man and his record.

115 posted on 02/18/2009 2:22:46 PM PST by Wolfstar (Elections have thousands of consequences. Some minor, some major...and some that can kill you.)
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To: cubreporter

No prob. I, too, wonder why President Bush waited so long.


116 posted on 02/18/2009 2:54:20 PM PST by upchuck (I'm glad I'm old. Thus I can remember when America was a decent, moral, God fearing country.)
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To: Wolfstar

You reacted hugely to a slight turn of phrase...”he swallowed his pride.”

We can imagine it took that or some effort equally difficult for him,in order to commute the sentences of these two fine defenders of America. It took an enormous amount of pressure from the public, and oh, a letter signed by every Congressional representative from Texas.

So, how does “swallowing his pride” compare with that?

How does such a statement compare with the fact that he called us vigilantes, spoke of “jobs Americans won’t do” over and over and over, and left Ramos and Compean twisting in the wind when he could have done something much sooner.

Nephi’s statement is nothing compared to the fact that the California economy is now in the toilet due to illegals.

The abrogation of our borders and allowing the presence of 20 million illegals in our midst was a huge blind spot in the vision of President GWB. The border should have been closed on 9/12/01, and he could have done it.


117 posted on 02/18/2009 4:17:21 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us)
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To: La Enchiladita
You reacted hugely...

So now you're into telling other people how they should and should not react to things. Well get let me make this crystal clear. I do NOT buy into all the hoo-ha over Ramos and Compean, which means I have a different point of view than you do about this matter. Last I checked, I am equally as entitled to my point of view as you are to yours.

118 posted on 02/18/2009 4:54:20 PM PST by Wolfstar (Elections have thousands of consequences. Some minor, some major...and some that can kill you.)
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To: Wolfstar

Who said you’re not entitled to your opinion?
However, you were not honest up until this point about your view that Ramos and Compean are criminals.
You were being defensive re GWB.
Anyway, forget it. I don’t have time for this.


119 posted on 02/18/2009 5:06:13 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us)
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To: La Enchiladita
Anyway, forget it. I don’t have time for this.

Good, because you're way out of line.

120 posted on 02/18/2009 5:13:54 PM PST by Wolfstar (Elections have thousands of consequences. Some minor, some major...and some that can kill you.)
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