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Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul Part II
The New Jersey Star-Ledger ^ | February 14, 2009 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 02/17/2009 3:07:30 AM PST by King of Card Games

How quickly they forget.

All these dupes of the national Republican Party, I mean.

Just a few months ago John McCain was promising a plan that would have created a budget deficit equal to or greater than the one now being created by Barack Obama.

But now that it's Obama who's in the White House, the Beltway Republicans are trying to convince us that they've seen the light and converted to fiscal conservatism.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2009; lping; mulshine; paul; paulmulshine; ronpaul
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To: King of Card Games
the Beltway Republicans are trying to convince us that they've seen the light and converted to fiscal conservatism.

Anything short of burning Collins, Snowe and Specter in effigy is underwhelming.

81 posted on 02/17/2009 8:13:54 AM PST by Nephi (Like the failed promise of Fascism, masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism.)
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To: A.Hun
"In case you haven’t noticed, the 350 billion bailout kept our banking system from having already failed."

There are those who make this claim. I am not convinced taxpayers should be held liable to "save" banks with bad loans and bad investments. When banks and other businesses fail, why should taxpayers be held liable? As for banks, depositors were already protected by the FDIC. As for other failed businesses (especially small businesses), well, they are still on their own.

"The bad thing is that Marxists will be calling the shots now instead of conservatives that found themselves in a terrible economic spot."

I agree the marxists are now in charge. But I am also convinced had there been true fiscal conservatives serving in congress and the executive branch, maybe, just maybe, we would not have found ourselves in this "terrible economic spot."

82 posted on 02/17/2009 8:17:11 AM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: A.Hun
Indeed.

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.

Hey Barack HUSSEIN Obama, I went to Harvard too! That was the worst fieldtrip of my life, but I went there...


83 posted on 02/17/2009 8:17:51 AM PST by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: wolfcreek
Paul’s just a messenger.

And the message is from Uranus.

84 posted on 02/17/2009 8:20:09 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: A.Hun

Who are you trying to impress us with your anonymous, emotional, irrational, hysterical spew?


85 posted on 02/17/2009 8:21:09 AM PST by Nephi (Like the failed promise of Fascism, masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism.)
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To: takenoprisoner
But I am also convinced had there been true fiscal conservatives serving in congress and the executive branch, maybe, just maybe, we would not have found ourselves in this "terrible economic spot."

Greed has no political affiliations...

As for the banks and business in general, I agree that they should be allowed to fail. However, the banks would take everyone else down with them. We literally were staring at economic anarchy in a very short order.

We know now that there was a 550 billion dollar run on money markets in a couple of hours. There was no choice in this situation.

Acknowledging reality doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

86 posted on 02/17/2009 8:21:12 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: from occupied ga
Yes - I keep telling myself that the presidential win for Obama was just the greater of two evils

McCain was a dupe but he was not evil. The only thing we are spared is seeing him assist the media in making him look like the dupe he is.

87 posted on 02/17/2009 8:22:44 AM PST by ColdWater
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To: A.Hun
On their worst day, a bill like porkulus would never have been considered by Republicans.

Your argument is McCain, as President, would have vetoed a massive stimulus bill? Wake up.
88 posted on 02/17/2009 8:23:30 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Nephi
Who are you trying to impress us with your anonymous, emotional, irrational, hysterical spew?

Who are you questioning me? Answer the posts or STFU.

89 posted on 02/17/2009 8:24:05 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

90 posted on 02/17/2009 8:25:13 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: mysterio
Your argument is McCain, as President, would have vetoed a massive stimulus bill?

I can't know for sure, but I do know that a bill like Porkulus would never have been sent to his desk by Republicans.

In this case, with this bill presented by the opposition, I believe he would have vetoed it in a second.

91 posted on 02/17/2009 8:26:27 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Petronski

Hehehehe....


92 posted on 02/17/2009 8:27:05 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Added to it? He practically doubled it.


93 posted on 02/17/2009 8:30:20 AM PST by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: A.Hun

Just an observation. You’re worse than a woman. Hysterical. Emotional. Irrational. Who are you trying to impress? Petronski?


94 posted on 02/17/2009 8:31:29 AM PST by Nephi (Like the failed promise of Fascism, masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism.)
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To: A.Hun

And that excuses the earmarks, wasteful spending and prescription drug plan? I was under the impression that increasing the size of government is not a conservative value, but I guess everything is relative. Silly me.


95 posted on 02/17/2009 8:32:47 AM PST by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: Nephi
Hysterical. Emotional. Irrational.

Sorry, that describes most Paulbots.

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96 posted on 02/17/2009 8:33:12 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

So you’re okay with central planning as long as it’s under conservative leadership, as long as it’s “your guy”? Fascism anyone?


97 posted on 02/17/2009 8:36:54 AM PST by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: djsherin
No one in my lifetime (52 years) has ever cut the federal budget. The best they could do is cut taxes and slow the increase.

That includes every Republican President conservative or not.

Blaming GWB because he couldn't either is silly.

98 posted on 02/17/2009 8:38:00 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

Do you think “stimulus” bills actually do anything for the economy, even if they are filled with “job creation”?


99 posted on 02/17/2009 8:38:48 AM PST by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: djsherin
So you’re okay with central planning as long as it’s under conservative leadership, as long as it’s “your guy”? Fascism anyone?

In the absence of any other choice, I would much rather it be "my Guys" controlling the spending and the direction.

Did Republicans ever have the filibuster proof majority our law demands, to change entitlement spending?

100 posted on 02/17/2009 8:40:22 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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