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Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul Part II
The New Jersey Star-Ledger ^ | February 14, 2009 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 02/17/2009 3:07:30 AM PST by King of Card Games

How quickly they forget.

All these dupes of the national Republican Party, I mean.

Just a few months ago John McCain was promising a plan that would have created a budget deficit equal to or greater than the one now being created by Barack Obama.

But now that it's Obama who's in the White House, the Beltway Republicans are trying to convince us that they've seen the light and converted to fiscal conservatism.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.nj.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2009; lping; mulshine; paul; paulmulshine; ronpaul
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To: rabscuttle385
"Good grief, guys. This thread is swarming with Bushbots, McCainiacs, and Party Firsters."

In noticed that last night on a couple of threads. They've been pretty quiet the last 6 months, but have decided to crawl out from under whatever rock they were hiding.
Where were they when I wanted one of them to explain how the Bush TARP was NOT socialism.

I see they're still blaming GOP losses on conservatives, rather than on the GOP acting like Democrats.

281 posted on 02/17/2009 4:08:20 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: ninonitti

“what’s really coming down the pike.”

I’m listening.


282 posted on 02/17/2009 4:08:44 PM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: AvOrdVet
Congress doesn't know what the Constitution is anymore, they just throw out a law and the Executive and SCOTUS just rubber stamp it, that's why we need to get back to the basics and clean house.

I don't necessarily disagree with that, but throwing the Repubs out and allowing the Dems in was the greatest mistake of all time.

It is especially aggravating to me when so many of the charges "conservatives" use against GWB and the Republicans to justify letting it happen, just are not true.

283 posted on 02/17/2009 4:17:16 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
I don't necessarily disagree with that, but throwing the Repubs out and allowing the Dems in was the greatest mistake of all time.

Did I say that? no I didn't, look back through the thread... I've said it MANY times... Get rid of them ALL, "R's" and "D's".

You guys HAVE to get over this R & D crap and clean them all out or nothing will change. It has to start somewhere and sometime, for me it was with the last election.

284 posted on 02/17/2009 4:25:36 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet

Well its been fun and the wife is looking at me funny... and not in the fun way ;-)

Later, AOV


285 posted on 02/17/2009 4:27:09 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet

Its time for me to quit this marathon too...

See ya.


286 posted on 02/17/2009 4:28:52 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: sickoflibs
If they cared... they would never have returned to the welfare system that destroyed the black nuclear family... but with a stroke of his pen... hussein not only tripled the debt we have accrued for all of our History... he negated ALL of the 1994 Welfare reform legislation. black women will now be paid on a per child basis... more children... more welfare... but only if there is no Daddy.

LLS

287 posted on 02/17/2009 4:40:55 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
but he ain't CONSERVATIVE!

You are correct. He is a libertarian, which is the root of conservatism.

288 posted on 02/17/2009 6:26:25 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: from occupied ga
What more do you need to define evil?

I said he was a dupe. A dupe does bad things because he is stupid. Evil does bad things because, well, they are Evil.

289 posted on 02/17/2009 8:37:24 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: elkfersupper
Watch out for those first three letters... LIBertarian.

LLS

290 posted on 02/18/2009 12:33:03 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: djsherin

“To be fair I think a lot of those people were kind of wacko and out there”

I’ll take relatively harmless wacko voters over dangerous big government socialist Republican politicians every time.


291 posted on 02/18/2009 2:59:21 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Just mythoughts

“I have no memory of him warning anybody about the looming housing bubble and the liberal bankers spreading toxic debt through out the economic system.”

Then you haven’t been paying attention. Ron Paul has been trying to warn us for over 30 years:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1944714/posts

September 19, 1984
SOME OBSERVATIONS ON FOUR TERMS IN CONGRESS
HON. RON PAUL of TEXAS
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Mr. Speaker, I shall soon be leaving the House and have asked for this special order to make a few comments regarding the problems our nation faces and the actions needed to correct hem. Having been honored by the 22nd district of Texas to represent them for four terms, I have grown to appreciate the greatness of this institution. I only wish the actions performed by Congress in recent years could match the historic importance of this body.

(...)


292 posted on 02/18/2009 3:04:38 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: TigersEye

“It was hardly “seen through” when 800 miles are still open.”

According to one of the border security organizations which I support, only about 200 miles of new fencing - the kind that was mandated in the border fence legislation - has been built.


293 posted on 02/18/2009 3:25:27 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: A.Hun

“Obviously....Congress approved it and no one appealed to the SC to stop it.”

Living constitution? I thought Boosh was a strict constructionist?


294 posted on 02/18/2009 3:29:43 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: ColdWater
I said he was a dupe. Evil does bad things because, well, they are Evil.

So now you know the inner workings of his mind? Evil is as evil does. The motivation is utterly irrelevant. I'm sure Pelosi and company think they're doing the right thing too. I doubt if they get up in the morning and think "well what evil can I do today?" Instead they probably think something like "those fools in flyover country don't know what's good for them, but we do and we're going to do it to them for their own good." All socialists are stupid because they believe in a failed system; does this may Pelosi and Obama "dupes?"

295 posted on 02/18/2009 3:48:31 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: wolfcreek
I didn’t vote for Paul or McCain or anyone else in the general. (McQueeg had Texas wrapped up) I do know Paul warned of this economic crisis a couple of years ago and no one listened. (apparently some still are not) I’ll give him credit where it is due.

IMO since FDR liberals have slowly been moving to where we are today. Hillary Clinton in 2003 or 2004 gave a ranting screeching speech to her Connecticut investor fund-raising crowd, the loudest warning regarding what the plan was. She told them that a Bush economy was a Hoover economy.

President Reagan also gave a warning when he said the Department of Education should be dismantled but nobody would listen. The MSM all election year last year kept proclaiming the 40 and under college educated were in overwhelming majority Bama supporters. And recently there was a thread here that said the polling data on who the majority of young voters voted, did in fact go for Bama.

This economic crisis was a well orchestrated organized plot and involved were all fundamentals of an organized society. Political, economic, education, and last but certainly not least religious. Of all the candidates that threw their political hats in the ring this past season I liked what Duncan Hunter proposed the most.

My state was a very close call between Bama and McCain in the final outcome, and since Sarah was on the ticket I did and get my family and anyone else whose brain was not closed off to go and vote for the Republican ticket.

296 posted on 02/18/2009 5:21:52 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: TigersEye
RE :” Tell me how Bush had anything to do with the mortgage lending crisis. ???” and “Bull. The economic indicators were way up for quite a while.

I disagree that the past 8 years were the model for a private higher standard of living. In the free market scenario, the products are sold cheaper and cheaper by greater efficiency and competition. But our major industry driving the private sector economy was housing. But housing prices rose not fell, so did energy, and food, it all went up , until last year when it all collapsed from the weight of what was driving it, ever increasing debt, inflation, higher interest rates all at the same time. Now the economy is in huge trouble due to massive private and public debt.

Most of the subprime loans were owners cashing out their houses, home equity loans on equity that doesn't exist, really never existed. Now some investor or bank owns the loan worth more than the property and the government and fed are trying to manufacture money to reverse those losses in an attempt to get the loans flowing again (or for social reasons.) .

The ‘money in our pocket” was gov deficit spending and spending the equity of houses that never existed, ie debt! I am afraid something else has to be fixed, this was a disaster.

297 posted on 02/18/2009 5:43:23 AM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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To: SecAmndmt
September 19, 1984 SOME OBSERVATIONS ON FOUR TERMS IN CONGRESS HON. RON PAUL of TEXAS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Mr. Speaker, I shall soon be leaving the House...

But he is still there. RonPaul did not and does not know what it means for this nation to be the lone superpower of nations and the last defense for 'freedom' around this globe. His Iraq policy was NOT for our economy, because what was at stake was the 'free' flow of the economic engine of this globe oil. The world in their so called united body were using old Saddam's oil to fund the spread of uncivilized barbaric terroristic slaughter.

Clintonism was the stated public policy of 'equalizing all nations', and that is exactly what the Clintons set in motion. Walling off government agencies we pay for to keep US informed against enemy threats. No matter how much RonPaul knows economics he was and is very short sighted regarding the whole picture.

298 posted on 02/18/2009 6:01:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: King of Card Games
Ron Paul Looney Tunes
299 posted on 02/18/2009 9:56:13 AM PST by gtsamson (The GOP has no place for extremism.)
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To: from occupied ga
doubt if they get up in the morning and think "well what evil can I do today?"

I am sure that they get up each morning and say what can they do to further their power.

All socialists are stupid because they believe in a failed system; does this may Pelosi and Obama "dupes?"

Pelosi and Obama are not a dupes because she is using the socialist system to further her agenda. McCain is a dupe because he believes that he can get along with them and does not see the danger they propose.

300 posted on 02/18/2009 10:59:09 AM PST by ColdWater
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