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Cheney Attacks!
TownHall ^ | February 12, 2009 | Cliff May

Posted on 02/13/2009 9:43:39 AM PST by dbz77

The headline on CNN was "Cheney Attacks!" Correspondent Tom Foreman commented that "even in the bare- knuckle world of Washington these days, this was a remarkably sharp attack by the former vice president just weeks into President Obama's term."

And how had the former vice president expressed his fabled bellicosity this time? In an interview with Politico.com, he warned that there is a "high probability" that, in the years ahead, terrorists will attempt to use a nuclear or biological weapon to mass-murder Americans.

Cheney said he was concerned that the Obama administration may discard some of the policies that have defeated such attempts since 9/11/01. As he put it: "When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an al-Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry."

The guests on one CNN program thought that an outrageous comment (with a single exception: me). Who would really insist on reading terrorists their rights? But a front-page headline in the Washington Post recently announced: "Bush's ‘War' On Terror Comes to a Sudden End." If there's no war, terrorist suspects cannot be "unlawful enemy combatants"; they must be treated instead as suspects in criminal justice proceedings. Such suspects are legally entitled to "Miranda warnings" - they must be informed, for example, that they have a "right to remain silent." On what basis could there be an exception?

That wasn't the only flank on which Cheney "attacked." He also said he worried about Obama's decision to shut down the detention facility at Guantánamo. Those incarcerated there, he said, "are evil people." He cited intelligence reports revealing that at least 61 of the detainees released from Guantánamo during the Bush administration have "gone back into the business of being terrorists."

He might have added that 11 of the 85 individuals now on Saudi Arabia's "most wanted" list have been released from Guantánamo as well. They were sent back home where Saudi authorities put them through an anti-jihadi rehabilitation program - unsuccessfully, as it now turns out.

Further, Walid Phares, a senior fellow at my think tank, the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, reports that on-line Islamist chat rooms have been discussing Obama's expected releases from Guantánamo -- predicting that those set free will be "not only well received and made into heroes but will become the leaders of the jihad (al-Qaeda and others) against the United States, the West and moderates in the region."

The man Poltico.com calls "arguably the most controversial" vice president in history, concluded with this: "The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected. Sometimes, that requires us to take actions that generate controversy. I'm not at all sure that that's what the Obama administration believes."

Can it get any more shockingly bare-knuckled than that? Is it any wonder that, as Politico.com put it: "Many of the top Democratic legal and national security players have long viewed Cheney as a man who became unhinged by his fears?"

In light of all this, it is worth noting that President Obama has given himself at least a year to figure out how to close Gitmo. That suggests he's aware that neither releasing detainees abroad nor bringing them to the U.S. is an ideal solution. He's also taking several months to study the use of military commissions as an alternative to trying terrorists in civilian courts.

Regarding interrogations, the Obama administration has ruled out torture. But so, too, did the Bush administration. The question is: How do you define torture? Obama has yet to decide whether all methods involving stress and duress - not just water-boarding -- should be prohibited in all cases, even those involving terrorists believed to possess life-saving information about imminent attacks.

Marc Thiessen, who served in both the Bush White House and the Defense Department, has been adamant that coercive interrogations were "singularly responsible for stopping al-Qaeda from flying planes into the Library Tower in Los Angeles, Heathrow Airport, and London's Canary Warf, and blowing up apartment buildings in Chicago, among other plots." Cheney told Politico.com that evidence eventually will be made public indisputably establishing such connections.

The Obama administration has no current plans to end renditions - a practice utilized during the Clinton/Gore administration (with no protests that I can recall) before being adopted by Bush and Cheney (with administration critics up in arms and a Hollywood movie exposing the dastardliness of the practice). Indeed, the Obama Justice Department has defended the Bush administration's assertion of the state-secrets privilege in a rendition case in the Ninth Circuit.

In the end, Obama may make unwise and, indeed, lethal decisions on all of these policies as Cheney fears. But as a senator, he voted to restore to America's intelligence agencies the power to eavesdrop on terrorist suspects abroad - after initially opposing the bill along with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who for four months blocked House members from voting on it.

Since then, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review -- the federal appeals court created to rule on questions involving national security surveillance -- has reaffirmed that the Fourth Amendment's requirement for warrants does not apply to the foreign collection of intelligence, even if that intelligence involves Americans.

The former vice president did not talk about all this in his interview with Politico.com. Perhaps he decided that to do so would be seen by his critics as crossing the line from mere attack to barbarian rampage.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cliffmay; gitmo; obamatruthfile; richardbcheney; truthhurts; wot
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1 posted on 02/13/2009 9:43:39 AM PST by dbz77
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To: dbz77

Hussein has basically put out the welcome mat for the terrorists of the world. And then of course, there’s the enemy within.


2 posted on 02/13/2009 9:45:06 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220 (There ought to be one day -- just one -- when there is open season on Senators --- Will Rogers)
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Cheney should apologize to Comrades 0bama, Pelosi and Reid and to show his sincerity, take them with him on a hunting trip.
3 posted on 02/13/2009 9:50:41 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Kenyan Usurper - "Let his days be few, and let another take his office." Psalm 109:8)
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"Bush's ‘War' On Terror Comes to a Sudden End."

They declared war on us long before we "declared" war on them. I didn't see anything that ended their war on us, so the war continues.

Just because we stop fighting them does not mean they will not attack us. They attacked many times before we responded and will continue to attack.

4 posted on 02/13/2009 9:52:20 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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I’ll make this prediction: ‘Bama will not get Gitmo closed in four years and he’ll claim only after re-election can he get it done, thanks to “hardball, bi-partisan Republican politics.”

I’ll say it again. By November 2012, GITMO will still be open for business.


5 posted on 02/13/2009 9:53:52 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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Should read:

“hardball, PARTISAN, Republican politics.”


6 posted on 02/13/2009 9:55:02 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Dan(9698)

Surrender is NOT peace.


7 posted on 02/13/2009 9:55:44 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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8 posted on 02/13/2009 10:05:28 AM PST by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: dbz77

CNN deserves no credibility at all!


9 posted on 02/13/2009 10:05:30 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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To: dbz77

It’s not Cheney’s “attack” we need to worry about.


10 posted on 02/13/2009 10:08:54 AM PST by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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The evil all powerful Dick Cheney is one of the left’s greatest myths and sadly the Bush Administration buckled and largely hid Cheney, thus costing America the full service of a great public servant.


11 posted on 02/13/2009 10:10:50 AM PST by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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The man Poltico.com calls "arguably the most controversial" vice president in history,....

Politico can't even think back 35 years to Spiro Agnew, who had to resign?

12 posted on 02/13/2009 10:14:30 AM PST by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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Dick and Joe seem to be on the same page.


13 posted on 02/13/2009 10:15:49 AM PST by McGruff (Oh no, there goes Tokyo! Go go PORKZILLA!)
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To: dbz77
The man Poltico.com calls "arguably the most controversial" vice president in history, concluded with this: "The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected. Sometimes, that requires us to take actions that generate controversy. I'm not at all sure that that's what the Obama administration believes."

*snort* If VP Cheney had truly 'attacked', there wouldn't be anyone left standing, much less, able to opine about how mean he was. ;o)

14 posted on 02/13/2009 10:17:57 AM PST by SuziQ
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“The policies that have kept us safe for the past 8 years,” should be repeated every time the dems use their talking point of “The failed policies of the past 8 years.”


15 posted on 02/13/2009 10:37:32 AM PST by Rad_J
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To: Williams
The evil all powerful Dick Cheney is one of the left’s greatest myths and sadly the Bush Administration buckled and largely hid Cheney, thus costing America the full service of a great public servant.
Cheney actually did little. He was mostly a propagandist.
16 posted on 02/13/2009 10:40:09 AM PST by dbz77
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“Perhaps he decided that to do so would be seen by his critics as crossing the line from mere attack to barbarian rampage.”
The Left set the stage for 8 years in its ongoing, constant, unending lies & criticism of the Bush administration. Who gives a damn what Cheyney’s critics think?
A good barbarian rampage in the press beats a barbarian rampage by Islamofascist murderers in the streets!


17 posted on 02/13/2009 10:55:33 AM PST by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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Too bad he did not use this energy to run for President in 2008. We would have an excellent President right now. I am still disappointed he did not change his mind about running. Yes he would have gotten some slack for changing him mind or flip flopping, but those folks would not have voted for him anyway. It is tragic to think what could have been.


18 posted on 02/13/2009 11:18:09 AM PST by napscoordinator
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Cheney would have made a fine President. As it is, we have been handed an empty suit with plans to create the United Socialist States of America. . a Mystery Man, a puppet of SOMEBODY - given to us by a leftist MSM and a LOT of money from the Master Puppetmaster.


19 posted on 02/13/2009 11:55:34 AM PST by Twinkie (RUSH THREW DOWN THE GAUNTLET TODAY!!)
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Cheney would have made a fine President.

Only if he openly and caustically declared his disagreements with the socialist policies of Bush.

Policies which were undeniably liberal, and when combined with the tone-deaf political lamenesss ("New Tone") which also opened the way for the Rats to go whole hog, with the conflicted out Republican debacle that ensued.

As it is...he didn't, so he shares the blame for those policies of liberalism.

20 posted on 02/13/2009 2:44:52 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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