Octuplets doctor has another patient expecting quadruplets

Los Angeles Times ^ | February 13, 2009 | Kimi Yoshino, Jessica Garrison and Alan Zarembo

[Zakeet]

The patient, who is in her late 40s, wanted one baby. Dr. Michael Kamrava transferred at least seven embryos to her. She is now hospitalized without insurance.

A few months after Dr. Michael Kamrava helped Nadya Suleman become pregnant with octuplets, he transferred at least seven embryos to another patient.

She was in her late 40s and wanted just one baby.

Now she's five months pregnant with quadruplets and hospitalized at Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center, according to several sources familiar with the situation.

The new case could add to concerns about Kamrava's practice and about whether the fertility industry needs more regulation.

[Snip]

The woman has three grown children from a previous marriage but wanted another child with her second husband, who is in his early 30s and doesn't have any children, sources said. She works as an apartment manager; her husband is a contractor.

She started fertility treatments seeking one baby, but after becoming pregnant with quadruplets, declined medical advice to reduce the number of fetuses, the sources said.

[maggief]

Dr. Michael Kamrava, 57, leaves his Beverly Hills, Calif. office on Monday, Feb. 9, 2009. Kamrava’s name emerged Monday as a result of an interview aired Monday on NBC with Nadya Suleman, who gave birth to eight babies Jan. 26. Kamrava is the director of the West Coast IVF Clinic.

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/IVF-Clinic/photo//090210/480/c3d7444cd9694a52876b99e2e1feadf7//s:/ap/octuplets

[gimme1ibertee]

You must be joking.

The joke is on the taxpayer who has to support these fatherless children-and it's a joke that has never been funny.In order to receive implantation you should be able to show you are in a stable relationship in order to provide a healthy enviornment for a child or children,as the case may be. You have to be able to pass certain standards in order to adopt a German Shepherd from the local Humane Society,but not to have embryos implanted.That's just WRONG.

[GOPJ]

The doctor can support these kids - I sure as hell don’t want to...

[meandog]

Anybody...Kamrava is a Persian (Iranian) name no? Ethical background of Iranian physicians?

[Kieri]

This woman had:

1) No job;

2) Was receiving disability payments (which means her health was in question);

3) No house;

4) Lives with her parents, and

5) Had no private health coverage.

In other words, no PERSONAL financial responsibility for paying the costs of raising these kids. Why bother when the taxpayers can be extorted instead?

[cripplecreek]

I’m thinking the doc needs to pay child support.

[Hildy]

Of course not..but we should not allow elective procedures to be paid by medicaid.

[Arthur McGowan]

When a man impregnates a woman, that makes him the daddy, doesn’t it?

[brytlea]

That’s not my point. This woman, who already has kids, has no medical insurance, and goes to what most would consider extraordinary lengths to have another child. That is showing a great lack of common sense. I don’t understand it.

[70th Division]

These procedures are expensive, right? Both these women are on welfare. So who the hell is paying for this? They should ship this Dr. back to Iran. And tell them he converted.

[gimme1ibertee]

Should this be done in EVERY case of IVF?

Of course not. Many infertile couples seek IVF as a means to bring children into the world,not as a means of sucking the taxpayers dry,or out of some perverse need to have something to cuddle and dress up like a doll,but because they REALLY love children and want to be parents.There should be guidelines for IVF,such as age limits,personal history (married,single,etc.),and income.Even my cat knows that if you don't have a job,or a home of your own,and six other kids without fathers,YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE.

[Global2010]

JMO but I am not a fan of IFV esp when the donor is unknown of either the egg/sperm.

Could end up with related IVF babies down the road not to mention the ethics of what is popping up in the news now.

[brytlea]

Your cat is clearly smarter than some people.

[Retired Greyhound]

I may consider bringing suit against him as an LA County resident.

I believe I have standing.

[Oldpuppymax]

But “regulation” can never control imbeciles or thugs.

[stayathomemom]

I believe there was a story a few years ago of a doctor in a fairly small community who was the previously anonymous donor on a large number of IVFs. What a mess for the resultant offspring and that community!

[duckman]

“You must be joking.”
I am against this type of regulation. However how do you stop doctors from giving people children they did not want? I am sure the lady who wanted 1 child and received 4 was not prepared to take care of that many. IMO

[GovernmentShrinker]

All fertility doctors do that, and I’m sure they’re required to by their insurers. It’s completely unenforceable, and most women realize that up front (and any woman actually faced with the decision would find out quickly, if she didn’t already know). It a smart thing to do, since it forces the patient to think about the reality of what could happen if she has more embryos transferred than the doctor is recommending, and about that the fact that she won’t be able to get any money from the doctor or his insurer if her gamble goes bad and she isn’t really willing to reduce.

In this case, however, I assume that this rogue doctor was encouraging patients to have lots of embryos transferred and just having them sign the promise to reduce “as a formality”. In which case, the document won’t hold up as a defense for him or his former insurer (and believe me, he doesn’t have an insurer now — he is utterly and completely uninsurable).

[Global2010]

I remember that creepy dude doctor.

He used his sperm on a majority of his patients.

Yeah what a mess and he was not exactly Mr. Handsome either with a big ole fat gene factor.

[gimme1ibertee]

ANY cat is smarter than most people. :D