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To: El Gato
Immingrants? Maybe not, but Barrack Hussein Obama I was never an immigrant, he was a visitor, a guest, no different than a tourist here on a student visa. He remained completely a subject of the British Crown, and definitley not "subject to the complete jurisdiction" of the United States. We can and did make treaties with his sovereign, that is the United Kingdom. Those treaties governed his status while in the US (or more general international conventions and treaties)

I'm sorry, but I can find nothing which states that resident aliens, save for foreign diplomats, are afforded any immunities or that they are subject to anything less than the complete jurisdiction of the United States while they reside here.

The only treaty we've ever had with England which is even remotely close is the Naturalization Convention of 1870. However all it was was an agreement that British citizens could become naturalized in the United States and vice versa.

The only treaty covering any sort of immunities is the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations of 1961, however it only recognized immunities granted to foreign diplomats residing in the United States.

So unless you can show what immunities he had which would have made him subject to anything less than the complete jurisdiction of the United States, I don't see that you have an argument here.


496 posted on 02/16/2009 11:42:38 PM PST by Michael Michael
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To: Michael Michael

You joined, and ONLY post on the bc threads, Learn to be a little less obvious. Tell Shauna you are over paid.


498 posted on 02/16/2009 11:52:54 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Michael Michael
So unless you can show what immunities he had which would have made him subject to anything less than the complete jurisdiction of the United States, I don't see that you have an argument here.

Could he, BHO Sr, be drafted? Could he vote? Could he serve on a jury? Could he hold a job?

Except perhaps for the latter, and that with restrictions, the answer would be no. Permanent residents and citizens could be drafted, citzens can vote and serve on juries. Both can hold any job they can get.

517 posted on 02/17/2009 11:04:17 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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