To: Hang'emAll; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...
After months of trying to get a copy of BOs long form BC, what if one of the NBC lawyers got their hands on it and it said BO born in Kenya, father BO senior born in Kenya, Mother born in USA. What do you think would be the turn of events?
Oh, I think we have SOMETHING we can use THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT BEST THING, since BHO seems to be withholding a $10 long form BC from the public...
Speculation aside on who the REAL father might be, let's turn to what we know for sure.
THIS from Fight The Smears: As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.
PLUS THIS prima facia evidence that we've had in the public arena for about a month now:
It's NOT part of Berg's case, nor any case that I'm aware of, although I know of a few attorneys who DO have certified copies in their possession. Pidgeon has considered it with a re-filing, but is waiting on a response from his plaintiff group on how they wish to proceed.
BUT, in the context we're discussing here in regards to the 14th Amendment and the NBC clause using Vattel's Law of Nations, which the SCOTUS has used to help define the documents of the Framers -- this information can easily be part of a new lawsuit, especially now that we know how to get beyond the "Standing" problem vexing earlier cases.
363 posted on
02/15/2009 7:08:09 PM PST by
BP2
(I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
To: BP2
It IS a part of two of Berg’s three suits, the third being brought against Barry Soetoro
369 posted on
02/15/2009 7:36:51 PM PST by
Polarik
("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
To: BP2
BUT, in the context we're discussing here in regards to the 14th Amendment and the NBC clause using Vattel's Law of Nations, which the SCOTUS has used to help define the documents of the Framers
It has been English common law which has determined citizenship since before our founding and after. After our founding, the states maintained the English common law as their state laws unless the state's constitution or statues stated otherwise.
Do yourself a favor and educate yourself by Googling "reception statutes."
None of the states veered from the English common law with respect to citizenship. The "natural born" of Article II is the "natural born" of the English common law. Which is jus soli, meaning you were a citizen of the United States by having been born in the United States, regardless of whether or not your parents were US citizens.
To: BP2
BP2 you are the man (or maybe woman ;-) )!
Great work! I hope you are sending your research to all the attorneys Orly, Berg, Pidgeon, Kreep and Mario Apuzzo in NJ.
390 posted on
02/15/2009 8:20:09 PM PST by
Frantzie
(Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
To: BP2
Does anybody, anywhere have the name of the “person duly authorized... “?
Does anybody, anywhere have a marriage license or other document that attests to a legal marriage?
Re: para II — The University of Washington records show Dunham to have been at the university in the Winter 1962 and Spring 1962 semesters.
Nothing is cut and dried with these people. Both the mother and Obama have used multiple names and a paucity of documentation.
395 posted on
02/15/2009 8:42:23 PM PST by
Beckwith
(A "natural Born" citizen)
To: BP2
That document is just about 50% of D’onofrio’s case, ain’t it????
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