Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama and Lincoln: Parallels between the centuries
The News-Sentinel (Fort Wayne) ^ | Thu. Feb. 12, 2009 | Bob Caylor

Posted on 02/12/2009 7:59:57 AM PST by presidio9

President Barack Obama is not the 21st-century Abraham Lincoln, although if you followed his campaign, you could be forgiven some confusion. From the time two years ago when Obama declared his presidential candidacy in Springfield, Ill., to his pre-Inaugural celebration at the Lincoln Memorial, Obama has linked himself to that earlier tall, skinny fellow from Illinois who was born 200 years ago today.

Certainly, parallels do exist between the 16th and 44th presidents. Two lawyers from humble origins. Two relative unknowns springing from Illinois politics onto a national stage. Two exceptionally accomplished writers. Two speakers who could captivate crowds. Two men mocked and caricatured as unfit, untested and incapable by their political enemies.

But drawing too many parallels between them is premature in the fourth week of Obama's presidency. That might seem obvious, but it's worth emphasizing, said Jason Jividen, assistant professor of political science at the University of Saint Francis. That people fall for the Obama-as-Lincoln story says something about the adept politics of Obama's campaign and the desire of reporters for a story that resonates with American history.

“There's nothing remarkable about politicians appealing to Lincoln,” Jividen said Wednesday. Teddy Roosevelt's supporters compared him to Lincoln, as did Woodrow Wilson's and Franklin Roosevelt's.

“So much of this comparison has been initiated by Obama and his speechwriters,” Jividen said.

To balance the picture deftly sketched by Obama and his supporters, consider some of the differences.

♦“Obama is beginning much more popular than Lincoln began,” said Elizabeth Kuebler-Wolf, assistant professor of art history at Saint Francis. Lincoln has been much in her thoughts recently, because she's researching artistic presentations of pro- and anti-slavery arguments in 1860.

♦Michael Wolf, assistant professor of political science at Indiana University-Purdue University Fort Wayne, points out that everyone knew Lincoln would be a divisive president - a civil war's-worth of divisiveness. But Obama has emphasized his “trying to unify the country in a ‘post-partisan' way,” said Wolf, who is Kuebler-Wolf's husband.

♦Obama appears convinced of the momentum of “progress;” that is, the belief that human beings are improving their lot with near-inevitability, Jividen said. Lincoln's doubt and soul-searching during the Civil War led him to a greater degree of humility over time.

At the same time, there are similarities between the two on subtler levels than physiques and geography.

♦ “They share an ironic trait,” Wolf said. “They both approach things pragmatically, but they want to make their decisions consequential. … They're big-thought people, but they understand the need in American politics to act pragmatically at times.”

♦“Both are remarkably candid about their ambition,” Jividen said.

♦Both Lincoln and Obama drew more in their writing and speaking from the idealism of the Declaration of Independence than from any other political document, Jividen said. It's obvious that Obama has a deep understanding of Lincoln's political philosophy, he said.

For now, the differences in the challenges they faced and the times that produced them may make full comparisons pointless. How do you compare the end of slavery and a civil war that killed 1 in 50 Americans with an economic crisis that threatens jobs?

With a little luck, neither Obama nor any future president will bear burdens as great as Lincoln did.

“Lincoln faced the greatest challenge a president could ever face,” Jividen said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dnctalkingpoints; goebbelswouldbeproud; mythmaking; obamessiah; pravdamedia; revisionisthistory; stalinisttactics; stealinglincoln
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last
Adventures in creative headline writing by a liberal copy editor. I generally post articles that a disagree with on FR, but this article is mostly about how different the two men are, and how different the circumstances of their presidencies.
1 posted on 02/12/2009 7:59:58 AM PST by presidio9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: presidio9

Lincoln and Obama. I didn’t buy it 2 years ago, and I don’t buy it now.


2 posted on 02/12/2009 8:02:18 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9

About the only thing they have in common is that they both inhale (inhaled) air.


3 posted on 02/12/2009 8:03:00 AM PST by BigFinn (Obama-you-loose, pork-u-loose, stim-you-loose... anyway you look at it... you loose.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9

The fact that obama uses Lincoln for his own gain is just one more reason for me to loathe him.


4 posted on 02/12/2009 8:03:24 AM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9

No comparison should even be made. It is a ridiculous article.


5 posted on 02/12/2009 8:04:01 AM PST by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
"Both Lincoln and Obama drew more in their writing and speaking from the idealism of the Declaration of Independence than from any other political document, Jividen said. It's obvious that Obama has a deep understanding of Lincoln's political philosophy, he said."

What a pantload.....WHAT has Bambi written????? Crickets.....

6 posted on 02/12/2009 8:04:40 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9

I’m still waiting for the first mainstream media article pointing out the parallels between Obama and Jefferson Davis, two politicians of the same divisive, special-interest focused, power-greedy, politically-crooked Democratic party.


7 posted on 02/12/2009 8:05:07 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kabar

Lincoln was an attorney for 20 years. Obama was a community organizer...but it wasn’t for “all the people”...it was targeted as “benefits to one group”.


8 posted on 02/12/2009 8:05:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: presidio9

It’s not true that Lincoln and Obama share the same thoughts on the Declaration of Independence. Obama has blatantly rejected parts of the declaration including the most famous line about the inalienable right to life, liberty, and property (pursuit of happiness).


9 posted on 02/12/2009 8:06:26 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
"They're big-thought people..."

uhh... uhmmm... uhh... hmmm...

10 posted on 02/12/2009 8:06:42 AM PST by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
Two exceptionally accomplished writers.

What exceptional writing accomplishments does the Obamasiah have?

Two speakers who could captivate crowds.

Lincoln didn't have a telepromter.

11 posted on 02/12/2009 8:07:23 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BigFinn

...and had white mothers.


12 posted on 02/12/2009 8:08:15 AM PST by TommyTrojan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: presidio9

Lincolnesque to me is trying to fight a war with the Congress and the seditious media breathing fire up his *** 24/7.


13 posted on 02/12/2009 8:09:26 AM PST by Calusa (Subo como el Dolar. Bajo como el cafe.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9

Lincoln’s wife was insane....


14 posted on 02/12/2009 8:10:23 AM PST by cmonkey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9

Those are nothing compared to the parallels with Lincoln that we may see later:

Suspension of habeas corpus
Military trials for citizens
Jailing of political opponents

Lincoln was not the saint many believe him to have been. Neither is Obama. Now that is another obvious parallel.


15 posted on 02/12/2009 8:10:23 AM PST by newheart (Obama. We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
Both Lincoln and Obama drew more in their writing and speaking from the idealism of the Declaration of Independence than from any other political document, Jividen said

I think it would be more accurate to say that Lincoln and whoever Obama's speechwriter is draw in their writing and speaking from the idealism of the Declaration of Independence than from any other political document.

16 posted on 02/12/2009 8:15:03 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sacajaweau

The main thing that Obama has in common with Lincoln is that they both hold the same office. Obama has been in office for three weeks and we are now comparing him to one of the greatest men ever to hold it. What’s the point? The MSM wants to elevate Obama to that status. Was Bush 43 ever compared to Lincoln? I can’t recall ever reading such articles.


17 posted on 02/12/2009 8:17:31 AM PST by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: presidio9

Neither Obama nor Lincoln are actually “from” Illinois. They moved there later in life. He’s from Hawaii by way of Jakarta and proud that he did not grow up as an American.


18 posted on 02/12/2009 8:19:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal immigration)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: newheart

You beat me to it. God help us because we are going to need it.I hope you all bought your guns from a third party and paid cash for ammo. January 20th the marxists drove a huge stake into the heart of America and the PORKULOS bill may be the final nail in the coffin.

Have a nice day in the USSA.


19 posted on 02/12/2009 8:19:04 AM PST by JDickeson75 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: presidio9
Both Lincoln and Obama drew more in their writing and speaking from the idealism of the Declaration of Independence

Let's go over a couple:

"He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good." He won't assent to laws to control illegal immigration or ensure our 2nd Amendment rights.

"He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance." He plans to grow government massively and exert more control over the people through it.

He's using it as a guide on how to gain kingly power over the citizens, not as a call to freedom.

20 posted on 02/12/2009 8:19:18 AM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson