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McCain: Stimulus 'a setback to change' ["I thought we were going to have change"]
Politico ^ | Josh Kraushaar

Posted on 02/08/2009 11:43:05 AM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: roamer_1
The message being delivered by McCain on this regardless of what one thinks of McCain is the following.

Screw McCain. He can shut up and sit down (on his porch, at home, in his comfy rocker, farting quietly into his diapers). There are other, more qualified voices we prefer to hear... DeMint springs easily to mind... McCain's is always and invariably the voice of the traitor- sooner or later, the other shoe is bound to fall.

Wow, another one.

You too like that other poster actually removed the quote with your cut and paste. AS I said to the other poster, this isn't about McCain. He lost the election 3 months ago. This is about today, the future of our country and a philosophy that says you don't bankrupt a country with trillion dollar pork bills. As I said, the more you divert the attention away from the McCain quote with your thumb-sucking, cry baby type posts, the more that message gets covered up. Here's the McCain quote again...

That's the present danger. Let's see if you're smart enough not to divert attention away from it this time.

81 posted on 02/08/2009 1:19:45 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: what's up

“we need to spend money on infrastructure and other programs that will put people to work”

He also said the above. If he honestly believes the government needs to spend money in order to put people back to work, then I will add “economic ignorance” to the label of naive.


82 posted on 02/08/2009 1:19:50 PM PST by yazoo
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To: Chunga; roamer_1; TigersEye
You helped give this country Barack Obama, you little twit. FOAD.

"I have to tell you. Sen. Obama is a decent person and a person you don't have to be scared of as president of the United States."
—U.S. Senator John McCain, R-Ariz., 10/10/2008

Go ahead, crucify the messenger because he refused to jump off the Socialist cliff along with you and the rest of "the Republican Party can do no evil" hacks. Keep on bleating "Republicans good, Democrats bad" like a good, compliant, mindless sheep.

83 posted on 02/08/2009 1:23:40 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Force of Truth

I don’t know if you were around or an adult during the Carter years but his ineptitude, that is being surpassed by Obama, is what brought us Reagan. Absent that, no way in hell would Reagan have been elected, so thank GOD for Carter. Folks in 1980 didn’t so much vote FOR Reagan as AGAINST Carter. In 1984 they voted FOR Reagan.

However, reviewing the countless primary threads that were posted here last year, I’m not even too sure Reagan would have gotten the 1980 nomination. There is always a horde that will find flaw with each Republican who puts his/her hat in the ring. Then they will pick, pick, pick until there’s only a carcass left.

Why good people would step forward and enter the public arena of politics is beyond me.


84 posted on 02/08/2009 1:24:07 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: rabscuttle385

According to a post yesterday, McNut and his homosexual friend, Graham, told Obama they were going to screech and scream against it but not to believe them. They were doing it to get votes from the conservatives and nothing more.

Wake up folks!!!

Now does it make sense?


85 posted on 02/08/2009 1:24:34 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: TigersEye
He wants it to sound like he is speaking for Republicans in general.

In other words, he's doing just what he did in the past election: making sure that legitimate conservative voices are throughly drowned out.

86 posted on 02/08/2009 1:24:41 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

I hope you are happy now that we see Obama everyday in the White House rather than McCain.


87 posted on 02/08/2009 1:25:21 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater
I hope you are happy now that we see Obama everyday in the White House rather than McCain.

If that's what it takes to piss off conservatives so they actually fight instead of acting like sheep, then so be it.

88 posted on 02/08/2009 1:26:12 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Force of Truth
I think if McCain were in office, we'd be looking at the same stimulus package, give or take, but it would be almost politically impossible for Republicans to oppose it, as McCain would be looking for tweaks, not threatening to veto. I'd be less concerned about Ginsberg's replacement, but still concerned. None of the gun stuff, abortion funding or gay-lesbian stuff would be getting pushed through, at least not by executive order. Gitmo would be in the exploratory phase of shutting down, but in a more orderly fashion. The WOT would continue to be executed in a dogged but not brilliant manner.

As of right now, I expect Islam to lay relatively low until we withdraw. Then there will be a blood bath and all the Iraqis and Afghanis that helped us will be butchered. That's the reason it was so difficult to get support. They'd seen us cut and run before. It's going to happen again.

89 posted on 02/08/2009 1:26:12 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Chunga
You helped give this country Barack Obama, you little twit. FOAD.

So did the RNC. So did everyone who supported McCain in the primaries.

90 posted on 02/08/2009 1:26:32 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Keep on bleating "Republicans good, Democrats bad" like a good, compliant, mindless sheep.

I don't recall anybody on this thread saying "Republicans are always good". Why do you set up such a stupid strawman fallacy?

BTW, as stated in your last post, you seem to have a problem with people bleating, "Democrats bad".

You should be more careful with what you post.

91 posted on 02/08/2009 1:28:31 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Lakeshark; rabscuttle385
Congrats to both of you on helping to give us Odooma. May you rot together.

And you are free to go sit and spin. It is not my job to vote for your favorite socialist. It is my job to vote for and support the best man for the position. That is in no way John "The Traitorous Bastard" McCain. Nor is it granted to the Republican party to own the exclusive and primary right to my vote and to my support. That is mine to give as I see fit, and I will not give it to charlatans and scoundrels, no matter how much you may wish it were otherwise.

92 posted on 02/08/2009 1:31:14 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Basically, yes. I don’t think he actively tries to drown out conservative voices. I think he just wants it to be about him so DeMint’s bill was competition. McCain couldn’t define conservatism, socialism or any other political ideology to save his life. He has no idea what those things mean. Literally. Seriously!


93 posted on 02/08/2009 1:31:22 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: FreeReign
"We’re going to amass the largest debt in the history of this country by any measurement, and we’re going to ask our kids and grandkids to pay for it,..."

I believe he is incorrect. We're going to collapse the financial system and God knows what will happen after that. We do not have the ability to pay for this, anymore than a penguin can pay for a Mercedes. At best, we'll wipe the board, savings will be out the window, financial institutions will collapse, and imports/exports will cease to exist. Hopefully, we can develop manufacturing within the country, otherwise we'll learn to do without. Many suburbs will become ghost towns, and you'll see a lot more squatters in vacant buildings.

94 posted on 02/08/2009 1:33:27 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: FreeReign
“We’re going to amass the largest debt in the history of this country by any measurement, and we’re going to ask our kids and grandkids to pay for it,”

And McCain supports that, just a couple hundred billion less than Obama's porkfest.
McCain needs to get off his Big Government philosophy and quit enabling the leftists.

95 posted on 02/08/2009 1:34:04 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Darkwolf377
When he does the wrong thing, we should keep damning him. But when he does the right thing, as he is now, we should lay off the guy, maybe for ONE thread. Is that too much to ask?

Yes, it is. Because it won't be long before he turns right back around in the name of partisanship. If this were a one time occurrence, then yes, you would be correct. But it isn't. He's done this sort of thing before.

This isn't so much a revelatory "I've finally seen the light" as it is McCain's realization that complaining gets him face time with his buddies in the media. It simply cannot be. In the last year, McCain has been:
for the bailout of Bear-Sterns
for the bailout of upside-down mortgage owners to the tune of 300 billion dollars
for the first massive bailout

With that history, there is no possible way that this is sincere.

When standing in opposition is no longer the ticket to fame and glory, McCain will be right back to talking about such fascinating topics as :
How criminals from other countries who are here illegally are God's Children and how we have an obligation to open our hearts and wallets to them.
The Blessed Shining Miracle that is Campaign Finance Reform
How vastly overrated the 1st Amendment is.
Etc.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

97 posted on 02/08/2009 1:35:05 PM PST by mountainbunny
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To: calcowgirl
And McCain supports that, just a couple hundred billion less

With a bunch of tax cuts, including corporate ones.

98 posted on 02/08/2009 1:36:57 PM PST by what's up
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To: roamer_1; rabscuttle385
I was never a McCain supporter, but that you can't see the difference between MCCain and Odooma says a lot about your maturity and ability to discern. The two of you unwittingly helped give the election to Odooma much more than the RNC did.

McCain actually said something good here, and all you can do is continue petty, petulant rants against him. When he says something good, at least admit it.

I see you are proud, very proud, of your work for the Odooma campaign. He welcomes your support.

99 posted on 02/08/2009 1:37:17 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Chunga; roamer_1; TigersEye
Listen up dumbass. You voted against Sarah Palin. Screw off.

There was no way to vote for Palin in Virginia without voting for McCain.

It is my understanding that write-ins are not allowed unless the candidate is pre-registered with the state.

And I will not support McCain, no matter who runs with him.

100 posted on 02/08/2009 1:40:17 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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