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Obama Putting Brakes on Surge in Afghanistan (Backtracking at record speed)
fox news ^ | 2/8/2009 | fox news

Posted on 02/08/2009 8:52:49 AM PST by tobyhill

President Obama has demanded that defense chiefs review their strategy in Afghanistan before going ahead with a troop surge, the Sunday Times reported.

There is concern among senior Democrats that the military is preparing to send up to 30,000 extra troops without a coherent plan or exit strategy.

The Pentagon was set to announce the deployment of 17,000 extra soldiers and marines last week but Defense Secretary Robert Gates postponed the decision after questions from Obama.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alqaeda; bho2009; bho44; bhodod; bhogwot; brokenpromises; democrats; dhimmicrats; husseinobama; nato; oefsurge; taliban; weakling; wot
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To: AirForceMom
The man
is clueless.

No, he knows exactly what he's doing and why. And it isn't good.

81 posted on 02/08/2009 10:19:40 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: UCANSEE2

I am certainly not an Obama fan, but as opposed to and “End Game Strategy” we need to define the objectives. Secretary Gates said it best the other day when he said “If you set your objectives beyond anything other than prevent Afghanistan from being a launching pad for terrorists, you will certainly fail”. Gates is very mindful of Afghanistans history with foreign armies and what we do theere and how many troops we send must be focused on that objetive alone. We aren’t going to make their corrupt government honest. We aren’t going to make their farmers quit growing poppy’s. We aren’t going to make their population literate and we aren’t going to create some new natural resources. We need to get the Tribal leaders on our side and the best way to do that is “buy” their allegiance.


82 posted on 02/08/2009 10:21:15 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: philly-d-kidder

“My Guess he is treading water to survive and listening and delegating to incompetent advisors!”

Desperation will be his downfall!


83 posted on 02/08/2009 10:22:04 AM PST by acoulterfan
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To: Fresh Wind
No, he knows exactly what he's doing and why. And it isn't good.

Remember what the Soviets always said about the Main Enemy. We're the Main Enemy. Conservative Americans.

Obama is waging his war here, not halfway around the world. He's going to fight where it counts.

84 posted on 02/08/2009 10:22:40 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: AirForceMom
The man is clueless.

I don't have any comment, except that it's so true that it needs to be repeated loudly from the rooftops for the next hundred years. So I repeated it above, and below.

The man is clueless.

85 posted on 02/08/2009 10:22:54 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

86 posted on 02/08/2009 10:23:12 AM PST by twister881
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To: AirForceMom

This one won’t rhyme but it’s still apropos -

The man is so clueless (How clueless is he?)

He’s so clueless he couldn’t catch a clue even if he was covered in clue musk and surrounded by a bunch of horny clues. :-)


87 posted on 02/08/2009 10:24:05 AM PST by SueRae
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To: tobyhill

Michael Yon has some sobering words about our Afghani effort. I doubt that’s why Obama is asking for a pause but even a blind pig ...


88 posted on 02/08/2009 10:31:16 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Play the new "rehab" card: apologize for cheating on your taxes)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Great point!
Wasn’t it Colin Powell that said, “A battle is only good until the first shot is fired”.


89 posted on 02/08/2009 10:31:35 AM PST by Leo58 (Those who cheer you today will curse you tomorrow, the only thing that endures is character.)
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To: Oldexpat

“Pakistan ain’t afraid of us and Russia is going to extract pay back for any logistics.”

I think logistics is the elephant in the room here. You can’t put someone on a battlefield if you can’t feed, clothe, or equip them.

Our eastern supply lines run right through enemy territory and are being closed more and more. The northern supply lines run through Russia and are subject to political blackmail and a restriction to non-lethal supplies only.

I don’t want to know the answer, but I fear that we simply cannot support the deployment of additional troops.


90 posted on 02/08/2009 10:43:19 AM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: tobyhill
Obama Lied, Kids Died!
91 posted on 02/08/2009 10:46:27 AM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: Allegra; tobyhill
Someone needs to show Obama the film of the 12 year-old Taliban kid sawing that "spy's" head off. I followed the link from The Jawa Report to the site with the video, but it is porn also. The Jawa Report warns of the nature of the SITE that is still carrying the video. Looks like there is some extremely graphic stuff on there. So be WARNED.
92 posted on 02/08/2009 10:47:53 AM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: bigheadfred

Everyone in America should be forced to watch that video. It just doesn’t get anymore real than that. This video game country could use a shot of reality.


93 posted on 02/08/2009 11:00:19 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: UCANSEE2
Growing up in Texas, I saw many of LBJs dealings first hand. The LBJ/Huey Long politician from the south was a special breed of politician. Much of what he did is only reported in rumors, because the only witnesses are guys like Billy Sol Estes, who was so crooked you had to count your fingers after you shook hands with him. Sol Estes claimed that LBJ ordered several murders. One was a government agent that was investigating illicit farm subsidies to LBJ cronies. I do know that one agent was found by his car with three gunshot wounds from a rifle and the local judge ruled it a suicide.

Additionally, George Parr, the Duke of Duval as he was known, was the county boss of Duval County. LBJ won his first House race primary when box 13 out of Duval came in several hours late, pushed LBJ over the top, and the last hundred people voted in alphabetical order. When the election board ordered an investigation, the warehouse with all the Duval County ballot boxes burned down. A reporter was investigating Duval County. One night, his son, who was an adult and looked somewhat like his father, was murdered in their garage. Nobody was ever convicted, but it's considered, at least around here, pretty certain that Parr ordered a hit and the illegals that carried it out hit the wrong guy. Parr finally got caught in some other illegal dealings and ended up committing suicide. With guys like Parr and LBJ, in Texas, at that time, there was no law. They did what they wished. There have been claims that John Connally (in the car with Kennedy when he was hit, and also was injured) was the bag man for the bribe to Parr. Connally denied any involvement. To understand Texas politics of the thirties, forties, fifties and sixties, imagine Chicago, only more corrupt, it was a lot easier to hide the bodies, and all the newspapers were part of the club. Most of the papers and TV stations were run by Dem operatives.

LBJ owned the only television station in Austin, and through his power with the FCC, prevented any other station except channel 7 from being in Austin for most of his life. This was a city with around 1/2 million people in the broadcast range, and Waco had more TV stations.

There are apocryphal stories, which can't be proven, but have been passed on by people who would be in a position to know, that indicate LBJ had severe mental problems. Supposedly, he did things like pulling his penis out at a cabinet meeting and saying, "Ho Chi Min will never get ahold of this," ordering Pierre Salinger to eat all his peas at a staff meeting, and numerous other stories about him degrading his subordinates in bizarre manners.

I'm not defending any of the others you've mentioned, but you really had to live around here when LBJ was in power to realize how crooked he was.

94 posted on 02/08/2009 11:12:45 AM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: stentorian conservative

Exactly. But I’m afraid if Obama makes nice, and backs off from Radical Islam this country is going to get a huge dose of that reality.


95 posted on 02/08/2009 11:14:33 AM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: AirForceMom

as a cow that’s mooless


96 posted on 02/08/2009 11:57:08 AM PST by willyd (My Driver's License is under Obama's Birth Certificate officer.)
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To: All; tobyhill; kristinn; ExTexasRedhead; Lexington Green; txradioguy; Coleus; miss print

.

It may well be that
the future of the entire human race
may well rest on our finally,

...during this new 21st Century of ours,

freeing all the women of the world
into being all that they
already are in GOD’s Eyes,

and all that they can be
while here on the Planed Earth.

With a hateful Anti-Women Anti-Freedom force back at again in Afghanistan doing all that they can to re-enslave women and little girls we ..FREED.. at such great price.

Now who with a right heart would say “NO” to protecting these fine FREE ladies from the Abyss..?

.


97 posted on 02/08/2009 12:25:12 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com11,,)
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To: bray

.

Please see my ALOHA RONNIE Post No. 97

Thank you very much,

AR

.


98 posted on 02/08/2009 12:31:46 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com11,,)
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To: tobyhill

He “demanded” did he? This man who never served a day in his life and isn’t fit to be commander in chief is making demands. It sickens me. He will never be viewed as a commander in chief in the eyes of millions of us.


99 posted on 02/08/2009 12:35:10 PM PST by jersey117
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Since when do Liberals care about the oppressed? They have never ever freed anybody from tyranny. They want the entire World enslaved, that is their stated goals.

Pray for America and Our Troops


100 posted on 02/08/2009 1:44:54 PM PST by bray (The District of Corruption fits Obama like a Glove)
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