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GOP in New York looks to Giuliani
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | February 8, 2009 | NA

Posted on 02/07/2009 11:48:16 PM PST by neverdem

ALBANY, N.Y. -- New York Republicans are completely out of power for the first time in four decades. Democrats rule the executive and legislative branches and hold 26 of the state's 29 congressional seats.

On the fringes of this grim political tableau hovers a larger-than-life figure who won worldwide acclaim after the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Rudy Giuliani, considered the GOP's best chance for redemption, has a new nickname: Rudy the Savior...

(Excerpt) Read more at timesdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cuethexdressingpix; giuliani; gop; rudolphgiuliani; rudygiuliani; rudytherino; rudythesavior
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IMHO, I don't think Rudy the RINO will become Rudy the Savior. Why would anyone to deal with Albany, NY? His chance to get to the White House is probably gone.
1 posted on 02/07/2009 11:48:16 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Well, I really think I could like Rudy, to share a few beers with, but I sure don't want his warped views on The Constitution ruling my life, and forming my grandson's future.

I'll support him for governor of New York, I'll crown him king, if you'll keep him up there!

2 posted on 02/08/2009 12:02:13 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: neverdem

IMO, with the right support team in place enroute, and the right administrative team in place once he gets there, I think Rudolph Giuliani would make a fine POTUS.

Some of his less-desirable features could be moderated, the others balanced, by the people around him. He is unquestionably a good leader who did a fine job with NYC back when NYC was a difficult place to manage.

Had he been running against Obama rather than McCain he would have stood a better-than-even chance of winning IMO.

(flameproof armor on)


3 posted on 02/08/2009 1:05:28 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: neverdem

“has a new nickname: Rudy the Savior”

why bother doing research, when you can just invent stuff


4 posted on 02/08/2009 1:25:46 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Had he been running against Obama rather than McCain he would have stood a better-than-even chance of winning IMO.

No question about that. McCain couldn't put together two consecutive coherent sentences. Giuliani, despite his flaws, would be a dream POTUS right now compared to the empty suit occupying the seat right now.

5 posted on 02/08/2009 1:38:13 AM PST by Azzurri
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To: neverdem

“New York Republicans are completely out of power for the first time in four decades.”

Hey, New Yorkers, how do feel about living in places like Michigan, or California. Cuz, that’s where you’re heading like a bullet train.

Big governement, small paycheck.

Not that I feel sorry for you’s guys—you’re the same dopes that voted in Clinton, the Mrs..

I hope you’s guys enjoy payin’ taxes as much as the Democrat socialists love your paychecks.


6 posted on 02/08/2009 1:42:35 AM PST by Boucheau
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Excellent Post.

I agree.


7 posted on 02/08/2009 1:49:14 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Azzurri

Had he been running against Obama rather than McCain he would have stood a better-than-even chance of winning IMO.
No question about that. McCain couldn’t put together two consecutive coherent sentences. Giuliani, despite his flaws, would be a dream POTUS right now compared to the empty suit occupying the seat right now

As I recall, Freepers foolishly attacked Rudy Giuliani on this list during primary time. He would have been just fine on the most important issues and he is a loyal American and wants to see the U.S. continue and thrive. What was elected is anything but that.


8 posted on 02/08/2009 3:06:08 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: neverdem
IMHO, I don't think Rudy the RINO will become Rudy the Savior. Why would anyone to deal with Albany, NY? His chance to get to the White House is probably gone.

I think Rudy is lazy, and loves the glow of adoration more than hard work. Somehow he convinced himself all he needed was one state to have the prize of the White House. He never really challenged Hillary, or any other liberal for that matter. A liberal Congress would have had about the same impact on him as it is having on Bama. Liberalism lite is not that many steps removed from the complete package.

9 posted on 02/08/2009 3:28:36 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: neverdem

Rudy will NOT win the NYC suburbs and exurbs.

His boosters say he will, but the people just far enough away to see his tenure in NYC for what it was, with a bit of perspective that the distance allowed them, are NOT going to vote for a man who never saw a human activity he didn’t want to prosecute, fine, outlaw or otherwise put under the boot of government bureaucrats.

That and Guiliani blatantly stole over 1.3 million dollars from the 9/11 widows and orphan fund. When caught he refused all media inquiries... meanwhile his partner was looking to lobby for the Saudis at the same time.

Guiliani is toxic.


10 posted on 02/08/2009 3:33:27 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: neverdem
Why would anyone to deal with Albany, NY?

Why does Roto Rooter go where it goes? Cuz that's where the excrement is.

11 posted on 02/08/2009 4:06:46 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
Why does Roto Rooter go where it goes? Cuz that's where the excrement is.

"Ach der lieber....ai gotda vunny veeling dah Reepublucan
Potty tinks RINOS are pure crapola."

" Chonny and Wooty, you two RINOS bettah make udder plans.
Ai hear RINOS kin get jobs as Val-Mart greeters, Home Depot
paint mixers, McD's ketchop pumpers, unt vaiters at Ved Lopstah."

"Meshugannah, Kaleefurrneeyah ees bankrupt. Dat means
I gotda chainch my plans abat runnin for prezeedunt."

""Ai kiss anyboty's tookus to gets dah money to bailout Kaleefurrneya. "

" Mebee ai trow Maria off dah ski livt at Sun Valley.
Ai getda nashynal symputty ven anudder Kennedee goes kaputz."

12 posted on 02/08/2009 4:17:03 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz
Sigh. It's not just in Albany, is it...

Paging Joe the Plumber...

13 posted on 02/08/2009 4:24:46 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Just mythoughts

Rooty’s gonna hafta have a good explanation for his energetic business globalism-——the shifting of middle America’s jobs overseas that helped hollow-out the US economy.

How can Rooty explain the global economy in freefall-—the fault of globalism itself? (more below)


14 posted on 02/08/2009 4:25:13 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money. M. Thatcher)
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To: neverdem

Sadly, every democratically controlled state in America is in the toilet, so what do we do, we love it so much that we elect more to control the entire country. The word (we) of coarse only refers to the uneducated, lazy, unmotivated American liberal voter. Enjoy a##wipes you are instrumental in bringing America to it’s knees.


15 posted on 02/08/2009 4:34:02 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Is it time for my medication, reality is starting to set in.)
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Rooty's gonna hafta have a good explanation for his energetic business globalism-----the shifting of middle America's jobs overseas that helped hollow-out the US economy. How can Rooty explain the global economy in freefall---the fault of globalism itself?

12/07/2008------Failed RINO presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani told Sky News the election of Barack Obama will make America "an honest nation and not a hypocritical one." Giuliani said Obama would improve the country's image abroad.....and a tremendous opportunity to build a global consensus because of Obama's international support----(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com .........

ANALYSIS Count the number of times Ghouliani said "international interests".....meaning his own. Ghouli has a lot of money tied up in global businesses ...........businesses that need presidential intervention. Here’s Rudy’s global connections (the ones we know of):

(1) Giuliani Capital Advisors, LLC (AKA Giuliani Partners LLC),

(2) Giuliani Group,

(3) Giuliani-Kerik (re-named Giuliani Security and Safety, after the departure of the tainted ex-Police Commissioner--Rooty's ex-driver and bodyguard),

(4) Giuliani-Van Essen,

(5) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP law firm (based in Texas with global interests),

(6) Bracewell & Giuliani has two offices in Kazakhstan (in Central Asia), and had January 2007 closings totalling $1.625 Billion,

(7) Giuliani Security & Safety, Asia

Bracewell & Giuliani’s Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A., a Spanish transportation company (lobbied for Privatization of Toll Road in Texas--used eminent domain to take Texans' property for foreigners)

Bracewell & Giuliani’s Banco Santander Central Hispano, S.A. (SAN.MC, STD.N) (a bank that traded with a blacklisted Iranian Bank---these Hispano smarties also invested--and lost--with Madoff)

Bracewell & Giuliani’s company tied to Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chávez, who has called President Bush “the devil.” Bracewell & Giuliani lobbies on behalf of Texas-based Citgo Petroleum, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Venezuelan oil company controlled by Chávez.

RESEARCH

DID YOU KNOW US PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE RUDY GIULIANI HELD A CAMPAIGN FUND-RAISER IN KAZAKHSTAN? That's right, in Kazakstan

WHERE IS KAZAKHSTAN It is a former Soviet Union state, the only Central Asian country sharing borders with both Russia and China, and with states of nuclear-transit significance such as Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Kyrgyzstan.

GLOBAL STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE Kazakhstan is in the Strategic Energy Ellipse and is a member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization with China and Russia. A focal point of influence between the West and the East.....(can you say oil and gas pipelines?)

WHAT IS KAZAKHSTAN'S MAIN INDUSTRY Kazakhstan aims to become the world’s largest producer and exporter of uranium in the next five years. Country Profile 10: KazakhstanFirstWatch International (FWI)

Overview: At independence in 1991, Kazakhstan was among the four states of the former Soviet Union to inherit nuclear weapons, acquiring with it the status of the fourth largest nuclear power in the world.(1) The new acquisitions included thousands of nuclear warheads, intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), cruise missiles, and the world's largest testing facility (where 456 nuclear tests took place over a 50-year period).(2)

Kazakhstan’s nuclear fuel cycle resources include extensive uranium mining zones and fuel processing and fabrication technologies. Kazakhstan aims to become the world’s largest producer and exporter of uranium in the next five years.

It is the only Central Asian country sharing borders with both Russia and China, and with states of nuclear-transit significance such as Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Kyrgyzstan. Kazakhstan continues to make remarkable progress in the area of nuclear safeguards, export controls, and nuclear material control and accountancy.

Sources: Jon Brook Wolfsthal et al., “U.S. Nonproliferation Assistance Program,” Nuclear Status Report: Nuclear Weapons, Fissile Material, and Exports Controls in Former Soviet Union, Vol. 6, 2001, Any reproduction of text and data is authorized only by permission. SIPRI March 2006.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:HQykZ-u_GL8J:www.sipri.org/contents/expcon/cnsc1kaz.html+Kazakhstan+(nuclear)&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

16 posted on 02/08/2009 4:37:40 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz
Rooty’s gonna hafta have a good explanation for his energetic business globalism-——the shifting of middle America’s jobs overseas that helped hollow-out the US economy. How can Rooty explain the global economy in freefall-—the fault of globalism itself? (more below)

It is interesting that it was 'government' that had to legislate so called 'FREE TRADE', and yet the one commodity that never gets acknowledged is 'human' cheap labor as the key peg to have 'freedom to trade'. Unions now are government and the cost of government has become a bottomless pit. Wait until they have to outsource government labor.

17 posted on 02/08/2009 4:37:59 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Rooty is a govt whore---sucks up public money like a prostie giving a BJ. Here's another Rooty scam.

ROOTY’S TWIN TOWERS FOUNDATION SCAM

In February, 2002, Giuliani insisted upon transferring guardianship of the $100 million left in the city-run Twin Towers Fund to a private charity he controlled.

The families of the police and fire rescuers who died in the attack balked at Giuliani's plan to take up to a year to dole out the money, with his new organization billing $2.2 million in anticipated administrative expenses (including six-figure salaries for friends he appointed as officers). The families argued that the fire union had far more quickly distributed $111 million with an estimated administrative cost of just $30,000.

Giuliani backed down under embarrassing pressure from the victims' families. He promised to distribute the money within 60 days and fund his overhead from new donations. The families of the deceased rescuers, the real heroes of the September 11 attacks, received a one-time benefit of about $230,000 each from the Giuliani-privatized fund in 2002.

That year, the former mayor earned some $8 million in speaking fees alone, more than $650,000 per month.

ROOTY'S WIFE JOOTY‘S TAX-EXEMPT ACTIVITIES Rooty appointed to the "Twin Towers Fund" Board of Directors his then-mistress, Judith Nathan. This was Rudy's special little "tax-exempt charity" Jooty worked to "raise funds" for various causes----Rooty referred to her as a "philanthropist" claiming Nathan was a practiced "fund-raiser"----and had worked as managing director of Changing Our World,a national fundraising and philanthropic services company headquartered in New York.

18 posted on 02/08/2009 4:49:18 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz
12/07/2008------Failed RINO presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani told Sky News the election of Barack Obama will make America "an honest nation and not a hypocritical one." Giuliani said Obama would improve the country's image abroad.....and a tremendous opportunity to build a global consensus because of Obama's international support----(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com .........

Rudy does make quite a 'living' giving self esteem speeches. And Rudy did leave behind a very 'honest' New York City financial world center.

See Liz it is conservatives, 'you know' the 'value voters' who know there are but few things 'left' to compromise between a liberal lite and the self admitted full liberal package. Both liberal lites and full blood liberals methodologies require society as a whole to PAY for what others play. And yet who is the center of the blame for Rudy not getting elected, why it is those stupid 'values voters' for being 'purists' and stuck in times gone bye.

I think the moderate we are above it all crowd are going to have to have their noses rubbed deep in the Animal Farm methodology before they discover what the word values actually means.

19 posted on 02/08/2009 4:53:50 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: neverdem

While there may be a few things wrong with Rudy, anybody who lived in NYC during the Dinkins administration will tell you that Rudy completely turned this city around, at least from a law enforcement perspective.
He did it by the simple expedient of having the cops zero-in on so-called quality of life offences which it later turned out, resulted in a substantial decrease in major crimes.
Rudy left this city a far better place than he found it.


20 posted on 02/08/2009 5:39:01 AM PST by Larry381 (Politicians are like diapers - they should be changed frequently, and for the same reason)
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