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Rattling the Cage: The moral superiority of an F-16
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 2009 0204 | By LARRY DERFNER

Posted on 02/07/2009 9:16:07 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

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1 posted on 02/07/2009 9:16:07 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Sparky1776; militant2; TaMoDee; freedumb2003; PERKY2004
F-16 Ping.


2 posted on 02/07/2009 9:18:54 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: Jet Jaguar
They fought a guerrilla war.

Geez. This guy must have read my comments here during the fight. It shouldn't take a general to recognize a guerilla war when you see one. But I'm glad he got it.

3 posted on 02/07/2009 9:20:14 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Until you are ready to Kill them All.. to Beat on then until they are Unable to ask you to STOP, you will have to do this over and over and over and over..

CNN, no FRIEND of Israel, even had to admit, once (only once) that Israel showed Remarkable Restraint.


4 posted on 02/07/2009 9:28:42 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH OBAMA - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: Jet Jaguar

So is “derfner” Yiddish for moron?


5 posted on 02/07/2009 9:30:25 PM PST by Onelifetogive (Let's get to altering or abolishing!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
[ The point remains - they fight dirty and we fight clean. ]

Thats quite stupid.. fighting clean..
Patton and McArthur were right.. hitem as hard as you can..

The mystery is why communism a.k.a. socialism is LEGAL..
Its a political social disease..

6 posted on 02/07/2009 9:32:15 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Onelifetogive
[ So is “derfner” Yiddish for moron? ]

LoL...

7 posted on 02/07/2009 9:33:15 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
I agree. Hit them when they are down, and then hit them again.

There is no fair fight when you have the possibility of loosing.

8 posted on 02/07/2009 9:36:10 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: hinckley buzzard
The truth is that this time, the Palestinians fought much cleaner than we did. It wasn't because they're better than we are, it was but because they didn't have the ability to do more damage than they did, while we used our superior ability to the extreme. We bashed their brains in. We were like a 280-pound wrestler beating up a kid. All in all, we're better than Hamas, but this time we, not they, were the bad guys.

I don't think he gets it.

9 posted on 02/07/2009 9:38:08 PM PST by Seven plus One
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To: Jet Jaguar

Jpost is currently overloaded. We swamped them.


10 posted on 02/07/2009 9:42:13 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
"When someone comes in at night to harm you, rise up and kill them"

Works for me.

/johnny

11 posted on 02/07/2009 9:49:59 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
we're distorting the meaning of the term "human shields" for propaganda purposes. Palestinian civilians offered little or no protection to Hamas fighters during the war

It's a complete absurd. "Human shields" almost never "offer" themselves to "fighters", they are literally used - by firing from the hospitals, apartment buildings, from behind the forcefully retained civilian crowd, etc...

Come to think of it, author is the one who is distorting "the meaning". Big time.
12 posted on 02/07/2009 10:00:31 PM PST by alecqss
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To: Jet Jaguar

If this guy has some evidence that the Israelis deliberately targeted civilians, let him present it to any one of a number of US and international media outlets that will be happy to expose it for him. On the other hand, if his argument is that Hamas was not as successful at killing innocent civilians, or inflicting serious damage to civilian (actually “dual use”) infrastructure as they (and their Iranian friends) hoped they’d be, then his is a specious argument at best. What would he have the IDF do, fire their own version of Kassam rockets (presumably just as inaccurate as the Hamas version), and cease firing after they’d killed only as many guerrillas (and/or civilians, since they’re kind of hard to tell apart) as the total number of Israeli civilian casualties?


13 posted on 02/07/2009 10:54:09 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: Onelifetogive
So is “derfner” Yiddish for moron?

"Traitor."

14 posted on 02/08/2009 12:06:09 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (This disaster brought to you by the failed Obama administration.)
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To: Onelifetogive
“So is “derfner” Yiddish for moron?”

You got me, but from the tone of his article, he sounds suicidal. Anyone who engages in this level of “navel gazing”, when their neighbors are doing their best to kill you is really demonstrating a startlingly poor set of survival skills. This pacifist segment of the Israeli population has always been a threat to that states survival. ‘Bibi is their best hope right now.

Otherwise, it's only a matter of time until a nuke gets tunneled, dropped or launched into Tel Aviv. Passive inaction, especially in that part of the world is only going to get the Israeli's killed.

If this guy has children, he is certainly doing them no favors in attempting to perpetuate passivity towards these venomous snakes that truly don't deserve the “statehood” that they profess to seek. Let Israel eliminate the threat by whatever method they choose. In the end, a military resolution is far superior to this war of attrition that Israel has endured.

End the threat, permanently, and the Mideast will be better for it. If it is done, Israeli and Palestinian children will thank their parents twenty years from now. Continue to tolerate this Islamist proxy state as it stands, and everyone involved will be eradicated eventually.

15 posted on 02/08/2009 12:08:13 AM PST by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: Jet Jaguar

“Derfner”

That name just HAS to be made up. It had to be from the fertile mind of a comedy writer, who was looking for a label in order to let people know that this character was so incredibly stupid, that it’s amazing that he’s able to both write and breath at the same time.

At least, that’s the idea I get from his column. From his bleating that “it’s not fair that we killed a whole bunch of them, but they only killed 3 of us,” I realized that his article was actually from a scene taken (and deleted) from Mel Brook’s “Springtime for Hitler” play within a play. The problem is that Brooks must have realized that even in his comic brilliance, there are some things that are so far fetched that NOBODY could possibly believe this sort of nonsense, even in a comedy. I mean, for comedy to be “good,” there has to be at least a sprinkling of truth and reality - just a tiny bit.

But this “Derfner” is so far beyond “reality” that it’s just bad comedy. Not funny, though he’s desperately trying to be.

Mark


16 posted on 02/08/2009 4:14:41 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Jet Jaguar
So the argument that the Palestinians fight civilians and we don't is entirely correct. Palestinians not only direct their fire toward civilians, but hide behind their own civilians.

This guy has not thought it through. What if the IDF did not do what he considers to be fighting civilians? Why then Hamas would continue and increase its attacks, while Israel would not be able to fire back AT HAMAS. To avoid "fighting civilians," the IDF would have to avoid all fighting.

Sometimes a simple plodding argument is all that's required to show what's wrong with the thinking of the geniuses on the other side.

17 posted on 02/08/2009 5:12:00 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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18 posted on 02/08/2009 9:47:16 AM PST by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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Once again, Larry Derfner demonstrates how he earned the nickname "Moonbat."

Any Israeli Jew whose heart bleeds for Hamas is a total nitwit.

19 posted on 02/08/2009 5:46:54 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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Oh man...where to start...nope, I don’t want to get banned.

So here’s a link with updates ongoing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2154771/posts


20 posted on 02/08/2009 6:53:43 PM PST by Cindy
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