Italian government passes emergency decree to save Eluana Englaro

CatholicNewsAgency ^ | Rome, Feb 6, 2009

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Italian government passes emergency decree to save Eluana Englaro

Eluana Enlargo

Rome, Feb 6, 2009 / 10:50 am (CNA).- Italy’s Council of Ministers, headed by Silvio Berlusconi, unanimously approved an emergency decree on Friday to stop the father of Eluana Englaro from killing her by removing hydration and food. However, this morning at the clinic La Quiete, where Eluana is staying, the process to end her life was initiated.

According to the newspaper La Repubblica, Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi commented on his motivation for passing the emergency decree, saying, "I do not want the responsibility for the death of Eluana."

The decision of the ministers could become law, but still requires the signature of Italy’s President Giorgio Napolitano, who is reportedly against the decree. Unless the decree is signed, Englaro’s feeding tube will be removed today, after which it will take two weeks for her to starve to death.

The Italian newspaper La Stampa reported on Friday that Prime Minister Berlusconi spoke with the Vatican’s Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, but the Vatican "categorically denied" a phone conversation ever took place. La Stampa’s story was following the oft repeated accusation that the Catholic Church is trying to sway the political decisions surrounding Eluana’s case.

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[wagglebee]

That's the biggest of big brother interference in individual freedom.

Hey dumbass, the BIGGEST interference with freedom imaginable is to kill someone.

[pappyone]

Wrong answer, I am not a troll. I simply disagree with your viewpoint on this issue. But you are in good company. Seems my initial comment caused a strong reaction, but that was not my intent. Anywho, I stand by my conservative values of less government interference in my family decisions.

[wagglebee]

Wrong answer, I am not a troll. I simply disagree with your viewpoint on this issue.

Yes you agree with THESE people:

“This person suffering from hereditary defects

costs the people 60,000 Reichmarks during his lifetime.

People, that is your money. Read ‘New People’.”

[wagglebee]

Anywho, I stand by my conservative values of less government interference in my family decisions.

In case you missed it before, the ONLY person in the Italian government who agrees with you is a COMMUNIST:

Italy’s Communist President Refuses to Sign Passed Temporary Measure to Save Eluana Englaro

[BykrBayb]

Oh, you are most definitely a troll. Your opinion is that it’s okay to murder someone, as long as you want to. My opinion is, if you come close enough to be a threat to me or my family, you will be in grave danger. I’ll use the legislature for what it’s worth, but they won’t have the last word. I will.

[wagglebee]

Oh, you are most definitely a troll.

Ya think?!

[little jeremiah]

Actually, I took care of my mother for 5 months while she lay dying of cancer. I’ve sat by a hospice patient as she died. I worked as a hospice volunteer. I sat by one friend as she lay dying.

I want the government OUT of life and death decisions, other than to PROTECT life. You, OTOH, are pretending you want the government out of personal life, yet you want the government to ALLOW the government to interfere with life, to permit family members to kill other family members, or doctors to kill patients.

Anyone who wants to can commit suicide, there are books and socities to help people commit suicide. If nothing else, a person can voluntarily stop eating and drinking and guaranteed, their life will end.

Your bullshit is tiring, and the lie you are spewing - that I am the big gov advocate, is transparent as a pane of glass. You should at least be big enough to be honest and admit that YOU are the one who wants government meddling with life and death, not me.

[ColdWater]

You should at least be big enough to be honest and admit that YOU are the one who wants government meddling with life and death, not me.

Then you favor eliminating laws that intrude on personal decisions to end ones life?

[BykrBayb]

I have every confidence that Little Jeremiah would never kill his mother, father, nor anyone else. Here's what your plan looks like. Do not attempt to corrupt the health care system that I and my loved ones depend on.

[militant2]

“Cue response, but childish....”

How you read that “cue response” into my statement is quite interesting. You’re obviously defensive due to the a$$-kicking you’ve been getting here lately.

Here’s the deal....try to follow along.....I want government OUT of most personal decisions. But when it comes to someone taking a life (whether that be abortion or the situation cited here) I want an intervention by whomever to make it stop!

If that’s childish, then I’m a kid...

Militant

[wagglebee]

Pinged from Terri Dailies

[little jeremiah]

No, I favor keeping laws in place that protect everyone’s life. No law should be enacted to allow doctors, nurses or family members to kill anyone.

Anyone RIGHT NOW who wants to kill themselves can do so. As I said above, you or anyone even if completely helpless, with no recourse to cliffs, guns, ropes, poisons, car tail pipes, etc - can stop eating and drinking this minute, and your life will end very soon.

It’s free, easy and anyone can access it.

I am in favor of limited government, and the primary duty of government is to protect the lives of each and every citizen, no matter how small, how disabled, or how “unimportant”. (With the exception of criminals who need execution, but that is another matter.)

What YOU and your peeps want is the nanny government to force the medical profession into meddling with peoples’ private lives, by legitimizing suicide, which will then turn into active euthanasia, as it has already done. YOU and your peeps are the ones who want nanny government intervention.

Not only are you death cultists and nanny state lovers, you are liars and frauds because you are pretending that you want less government, when in actuality you want more.

If suicide was impossible without all these new laws passed, how is it that thousands of people commit suicide every year? Without the medical profession and government laws involved? Hmmm?

[little jeremiah]

You are entirely right, BykrBayb. Death is not the worst thing, as it is already assured for everyone who is born. But to hasten it in the name of “mercy” or “compassion” is ghoulish and evil Doublespeak at its worst.

These death worshippers do not see themselves clearly; they are amazingly self-deluded. And aggressive about it.

[MountainFlower]

What I don't understand is how those people (pappyone) think it is ok to determine when someone else's life is of no value...but should that scenario be flipped, they would flip!

Let them (pappyone) be in a position like Terri or someone else....where you can't speak, but your mind is totally there. You can hear, but people treat you as if you are stupid because you can't respond. They suddenly decide they are tired of visiting you in the hospital, seeing you in what they perceive as misery, and declaring your life of no value and choosing to snuff it out. Or maybe it is that you, like the unborn, have become an inconvenience! You might be silently screaming from inside your body, "I can see you! I can hear you! What do you mean, starve me? What did I do to deserve this? Remember all I have done for you and I meant to you not so long ago?" NOTHING LIKE THE SILENT SCREAM! Whose misery are they putting them out of?? How can they suddenly decide they are GOD to determine a person's life is no value and time to be over? So...then...what makes pappyone and people like pappy any different than Hitler, determining who should live and who should not...sending people to the gas chamber because Hitler determined they were a misery to him, they were less, their life was of no value... what a corrupt society!! What a corrupt mindset!! what a narrow perspective on life!! GOD has moved and awakened people who were in comas for years! GOD is GOD and not man. GOD should be the only one to hold the keys to life and death. perhaps it is a twisted mindset and belief that they are now, themselves "god" with that right and privilege to determine life and death. God spoke about that and addressed it. "THOU SHALT NOT KILL" I don't see any ifs, ands,buts or maybes there.GOD doesn't say, well, its ok for you to choose your personal preference for your life, either! He stated it plain as day in 4 words.

Stepping off my soapbox. Deeply saddened. Continuing to pray for the horrible turn our country leadership has taken, and the direction other countries in Europe are headed. Forgive me, LJ for ranting.

[militant2]

Well stated, and obviously from the heart!

Bless you!

Militant

[MountainFlower]

I work in a nursing home as an activities assistant. I have sat with my friends as they are dying...singing to them, reciting scripture, holding their hand, swabbing their lips, fluffing their pillows...was honored to be at the bedside of a veteran, as he pass on to glory. It ripped my heart out. It still does. Every one of my residents is a person with a life story and great value to those who shared their life, as well as value to the Lord. They deserve the right to die in God’s time, with dignity. Hospice does everything to be with them and keep them comfortable and as pain free as possible, when they are involved. When they aren’t involved, we do everything within our power to do the same for them. I cannot fathom doing this to anyone...refusing them the care they need...Terri and this other woman, they suffer an awful death when they are starved and dehydrated. I witnessed this being done and it took 4 weeks for her to die!! 4 weeks!! HOW is that humane? HOW is that right? It isn’t.

[little jeremiah]

It’s not a rant, it’s the truth, and needs to said often and loudly.

[militant2]

Words escape me. You are a Saint.

Militant

[MountainFlower]

::coughing violently::
::gasping for air::

far from it! was nice thought though!! for just a moment, I was trying to picture me as that and....POOF, it disappeared! ::laughing::

Sorry, Militant. Not laughing at you. Laughing at me! I have made more than my share of bad choices in the past. Good grief, for my age, I better wise up and not make any more...I made enough for a lifetime! Let's just say God puts me in the places He wants me, so He can use me as a tool for His use. Praying it is for His glory, too.

[militant2]

“I have made more than my share of bad choices in the past.”

God’s lessons on how not to do things! That’s why, by His grace, we have free will and the ability to choose which roads to take!

Keep laughing.....it’s food for the soul! :)

Militant