Posted on 02/04/2009 3:45:55 AM PST by marktwain
WTF? That is ridiculous and can't be constitutional.
As the saying goes, you can’t control free men, so you have to turn everyone into a criminal.
Yet another reason why I refuse to live in or visit the People’s Republic of Stalinois.
The red tape and difficulties could very well be by the design of a self righteous bureaucrat with an attitude.
Illinois has always been hostile to firearms ownership. I’m so glad I left that sorry excuse for a state years ago.
My son and I have been waiting four months for our C.C.W. license.
Course the damn state of Florida cashed our checks in three days.
We had some Circuit Court judges here in VA that were holding up CCW permits the same way. We got a law passed saying if the permit wasn’t issued in 45days then a certified copy of the permit application will be acceptable as a defacto permit until the application is approved or denied (within 90 days of application date by law).
IMO, the whole FOID notion is unconstitutional. The Second Amendment is really very clear. FOID represents another path of infringement, and is susceptible to abuse/negligence as demonstrated in this article. If the issuing authority is unable (by design or happenstance) to complete the timely ‘renewal’ the unfortunate firearm owner is placed in the position of breaking the law, not by his own hand.
This kind of interference in the people’s lives is absurd.
My wife and I are waiting for handgun purchase permits in NJ - by law they must approve or deny within 30 days. It’s been 8 weeks so far.
come on whatexit,
you should know laws are for the little people.
NOt govt.
Wife is from teaneck by the way.
You don't need a CCW to purchase or own a gun in Florida. At least you can get a CCW here even if it is taking a little longer than the normal 120 days. BTW if you don't like living in this damn state than you can always move somewhere else.
The Illinois State Police agency is required by law to process FOID applications within 30 days. But the process is taking up to 60 business days, according to agency spokesman Lt. Scott Compton.
"Gun owners can't go shooting, can't go hunting, can't buy ammo, and can't legally own a gun. They're caught in a problem with the state police not complying with their own law," said Richard Pearson of Chatsworth, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association.
Under certain scenarios an otherwise law-abiding gun owner without a valid FOID card could be charged with a felony punishable by up to three years in prison, said Todd Vandermyde, a Springfield lobbyist for the National Rifle Association.
Even people who keep guns locked away in their homes while they await their FOID renewal are in technical violation and can be charged with a misdemeanor.
This is why registration of guns or owners is so anti-constituitonal. The gun owners only need to do nothing, and they have become criminals. Even if they take the proper steps, and the *state* fails to do the paperwork, they become criminals. Becoming a criminal is the default state, once registration is enacted.
The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
Ayn Rand
Mark
Considering that Florida is the fourth most populated state in the country our firearms laws are VERY liberal. I hope we can keep it that way.
re: WTF? That is ridiculous and can’t be constitutional.
So? What’s your point? If you don’t have at least $100,000 and a willingness to spend time in jail then years and years trying to get your conviction overturned then you have little choice but to go along with it.
What a terrible state of affairs when the State can fail to comply with a law and then charge the innocent party with a crime.
The law SHOULD be that the default outcome of an application is approval. That would put a burr under their saddle to get the work done!
Four months? Ow. It’s only been one for me so far and I really hope I get mine before April.
At least Florida lets you have a loaded gun in the car without a CCW
I got it back from the Illinois State Police 1 week AFTER it expired. A buddy at worked waited 62 days for his.
And while IL law says it 'shall' be processed within 30 days, absolutely NO penalties are attached to that law. Therefore the ISP can take however long they please without fear of any legal penalty.
So what good is there stupid Law?
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I guess my point is that in light of the Heller decision that a lawsuit might do some good.
And not just a criminal but a felon!
Going through life with felony convictions closes a lot of doors, not to mention a felon can't possess a gun anywhere, in any state!
To buy a firearm or ammo, or to transport an assembled firearm on a public right of way, the statute explicitly requires a current and valid FOID. To merely possess a firearm within one's dwelling, the statute requires a FOID previously issued by the state police. The use of the terms "current and valid" in one context but not the other has a logical meaning.
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