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Obama: Robert E. Lee'd be 'very confused'
The Swamp ^ | February 1, 2009 | Mark Silva and Clarence Page

Posted on 02/01/2009 10:59:21 PM PST by theruleshavechanged

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This is an interesting look at some of the new president's humor. . . I guess we should take it with a sense of humor, but I don't like the fact that he said that Gen. Lee would be "confused". Bad choice of words. Some of these other jokes are quite good. . . esp. the Rahm Emanuel one. . . Lieberman had some good lines. Oh and I'm real sick about hearing about Obama's blackberry and the blasted puppy.
1 posted on 02/01/2009 10:59:21 PM PST by theruleshavechanged
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To: theruleshavechanged

I thought Vernon Jordan’s comments were humorous.


2 posted on 02/01/2009 11:03:40 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: theruleshavechanged

Lee would indeed be confused by a black president. He was a slaveowner, and while he said he would be willing to have blacks in the Confederate Army, he also said their subjugation as slaves was “necessary”. The big evidence that was somehow against slavery is the line in a letter “There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil.” Well, I could say “Most Americans who voted voted for Barack Obama” but that’s an observation, and sure doesn’t mean it’s a policial position I support.

I mean, let’s not be ridiculous. What Obama said was correct. We do ourselves no service by picking on every little word. Confused? You bet he’d be.

Enough about the Blackberry and the puppy is right. It shows how little there is to write about this man outside of policy. What a big “0” he is as a person.


3 posted on 02/01/2009 11:06:30 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: theruleshavechanged

wow, a race card right out the gate, and an evening of very snarky comments. I almost needed popcorn for that. :)


4 posted on 02/01/2009 11:11:53 PM PST by blueplum
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To: theruleshavechanged

I’m confused. I always thought the President was supposed to be an American.


5 posted on 02/01/2009 11:12:28 PM PST by devere
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To: theruleshavechanged
Obama told Lieberman, Democrat-turned-independent-turned-McCain supporter, that he has no hard feelings.

Suuuuure he doesn't.

As for Palin, rubbing elbows with the Washington elite whom she railed against during the campaign, Politico notes that Obama suggested Palin, who had accused him of "pallin' around with terrorists'' during the campaign, now was "palling around with this crew."

He has a point. If Palin's going to say something like she did--which I applauded her for--what is she doing at this event--to show it's "all just politics"? I thought she was supposed to be different.

The Washington Post also reports that Lieberman reported that former Vice President Dick Cheney injured himself while moving into his new home, saying: 'I had no idea water-boards were so heavy.'''

LOL!

6 posted on 02/01/2009 11:12:52 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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Rev Wm. Mack Lee might disagree

http://www.geocities.com/orvillei/macklee.html


7 posted on 02/01/2009 11:13:20 PM PST by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: theruleshavechanged

I bet Stalin, Lenin, Kim Jong IL and Chavez had or have a since of humor too!


8 posted on 02/01/2009 11:14:47 PM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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I mean, let’s not be ridiculous. What Obama said was correct. We do ourselves no service by picking on every little word. Confused? You bet he’d be.

Sure he would be, as would our forefathers and particularly Abe Lincoln! I think Lincoln would be far more confused and shocked than Lee. I find it odd he singled out Lee knowing that many southerners remember Lee with fondness.

9 posted on 02/01/2009 11:15:43 PM PST by mojitojoe
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I think Lee would be much less confused than most others of his times.

I read (in a post on FR, as I recall) that after the war, Lee attended his church, which was now open to blacks. None of the white congregants would approach the alter to receive Communion because there was a black man at the rail.

Lee, ever the gentleman, walked up and knelt alongside the black man. At that, the rest of the white congregation felt they could do no less... but he was first.

I do not know the accuracy of the story, but it would not surprise me to learn that it was true.

I have tremendous respect for Lee; and I say that as a New Yorker, not a Southerner.

10 posted on 02/01/2009 11:17:14 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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“Lee would indeed be confused by a Black president.”

I suspect any of us would be confused if we were resurrected 140 years after death into the future. My confusion is in the here and now. For example, why would Obama, with our nation in a financial crisis, choose someone to head the Treasury who can’t prepare his own taxes correctly? And why are the Republicans so silent about it? Just a couple examples of many that confuse me.


11 posted on 02/01/2009 11:23:50 PM PST by Jubal Madison (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Darkwolf377

> Lee would indeed be confused by a black president.

Great Generals do not become Great Generals by staying confused for very long.

Now, me, on the other hand — I’m still confused about Obama as the POTUS, and I don’t carry any of that Civil War baggage.

How can America, during a time of war with militant muslims, elect a muslim President with “hussein” as a middle name and “Obama” (which rhymes with “Osama”) as a surname, without even checking his birth certificate to prove that he’s eligible to serve?

Now THAT is confusing. Grant may be forgiven for working his eyebrows over that one for a while.


12 posted on 02/01/2009 11:25:19 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

I guess O gets a pass when he jabbed at Lieberman being Jewish. “Drop by any saturday afternoon”

What would we be saying if it were a jab at muslims?


13 posted on 02/01/2009 11:27:56 PM PST by rfreedom4u (Political correctness is a form of censorship!)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Robert E Lee was a traitor who had his right to hold any office under the trust of government (state and federal) stripped during his lifetime. Only in 1975 was his citizenship posthumously restored. However, this doesn’t negate the fact that he rebelled against the United States.


14 posted on 02/01/2009 11:29:54 PM PST by WheresMyBailout
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To: WheresMyBailout

No he didn’t. He left the Union when the North decided to use force to keep it together.


15 posted on 02/01/2009 11:31:59 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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To: dayglored

I’ve heard that story as well. I’ve also heard that many of the Confederate generals promised their slaves freedom when the war was over, regardless of who won.

But I’ve never really thought the war was about slavery.


16 posted on 02/01/2009 11:34:23 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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To: SecAmndmt

ping


17 posted on 02/01/2009 11:36:33 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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To: Darkwolf377
"Confused" is the wrong word, if he was going to specify Robert E. Lee. Your characterization thus: "he also said their subjugation as slaves was “necessary”" is highly misleading. He did NOT believe it was a necessity. As you pointed out, he believed that slavery was an evil, and if we continue a few more lines in that letter from which you quoted, he wrote: "Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild and melting influences of Christianity than from the storm and tempest of fiery controversy. This influence, though slow, is sure."

The only way I could picture him "confused" is to see people willingly giving up the opportunity to be well educated, while giving themselves into slavery willingly. But it's not just Gen. Lee who would feel that way.

18 posted on 02/01/2009 11:39:15 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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The United States defended traitors from overtaking its military installation. If this would happen today, we would all support the maximum effort in defending the United States.


19 posted on 02/01/2009 11:40:48 PM PST by WheresMyBailout
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