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1 posted on 02/01/2009 1:49:08 PM PST by Kaslin
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I fear like most libs, The Chosen One has no idea how to fight a war, funny seems like Bush didn’t either


2 posted on 02/01/2009 1:53:04 PM PST by NCBraveheart (Don't ask Jack Bauer what he will do for a Klondike Bar!)
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To: Kaslin

If I were a cartoonist, I’d draw a picture of Obama as a kid in an arcade playing one of those Bop the Mole games, where a mole keeps popping out of various holes that you have to hit back down. The holes would be labled Afganistan, Iraq, Iran, etc. Get it?? I keep waiting for some news person to notice and comment on Obama’s stupid foreign policy “plans”.


3 posted on 02/01/2009 1:54:02 PM PST by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: Kaslin

What did zero know, and when did he know it?


4 posted on 02/01/2009 1:54:34 PM PST by exnavy (Democrats are NOT firearm friendly.)
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To: Kaslin

I was just checking out your home page. What a classy couple, I’m gonna miss em.


6 posted on 02/01/2009 1:57:06 PM PST by exnavy (Democrats are NOT firearm friendly.)
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It's a good divisive issue for your liberal friends acquaintances. My evil alter ego over on the DUmmies board is going to flog this like it owes him money.
7 posted on 02/01/2009 2:00:28 PM PST by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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No outsiders have ever conquered and held Afghanistan...ever.


8 posted on 02/01/2009 2:01:24 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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You just aren’t getting it...

The numbers of Americans killed in action NO LONGER MATTER to leftists and the media! No longer will you see the Daily Death Count on the evening news. NO LONGER will you see Alphabet network reporters breathlessly reporting what the anti-war nutcases have to say, giving it more credence than the FACTS, or presidential spokesman!

CHANGE HAS COME!!! THE MESSIAH HAS ARRIVED!

Concern over US casualties is now unpatriotic, GET WITH THE PROGRAM....


11 posted on 02/01/2009 2:11:15 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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Obama focused on Afghanistan because Iraq was already won (although he will no doubt take credit for it) and he has no intention of doing anything about Afghanistan in any case. Last week he was appealing for the Europeans to take over in Afghanistan, which they have no intention of doing. But he hoped this would give him an out because actually, Obama is fine with a Muslim takeover of any country on the face of the planet.

He’s a dumbo and thinks Marxism and Islam are perfect together...which they are, up to a certain point. But at that point, our economy will be limping and he’ll ditch Michelle and take a few other wives from among the willing female members of the MSM. Because he’ll control the entire kaffir USA, the Muslims will be very happy with him and they’ll also be fine with his Marxism. After all, Bambi’s Marxist cousin Odinga is the hero of Kenyan Muslims and agreed to implement sharia, even though he himself, while from a Muslim tribe, was not a practicing Muslim but a radical ethnocentric Marxist.

How did this happen to us?


12 posted on 02/01/2009 2:12:59 PM PST by livius
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From the very start, every element of government in Afghanistan should have been replaced. Their existing government was a basket case, so any “cultural sensitivity” excuse is nonsense. They need the efficiency of proven systems, not a pretense of continuity.

Almost half of Afghanistan’s border is shared with Pakistan, and Afghanistan cannot be settled until this border is sealed. While the Pakistanis generously offered to seal some of the border at one point, which was rejected by the Afghans, the fact remains that Pakistan acts as Afghanistan’s evil twin.

However, in exchange for sealing that border, because of Afghanistan’s bottom of the barrel economy, the US could have employed every unemployed male in the southern half of the country, for as little as $1B a year. This would effectively remove them from the grasp of the Taliban and the drug gangs. And we could have put them to use rebuilding Afghan infrastructure with labor intensive projects.

These projects could include rebuilding entire towns, preparing land for commercial projects (like road building, which do exist in country), water projects, agricultural improvements, etc. And with each project, a portion of the workers would be put in charge of exploiting the new improvements, like the creation of agricultural co-ops.

Authoritarianism, while objectionable here, would provide Afghanistan with the structure it needed to modernize. For example, all citizens could be provided identity cards with detailed information on them; all children could be removed to safe and secure government public education; and women could be organized into small business cooperatives and micro banks.

Every government worker would be trained from scratch. Sharia would not be an issue, as the secular courts would completely be in charge of the law. Literacy would be required of as many citizens as possible.

In doing things this way, the few rogues in the countryside would denied any support, cut off from Pakistan, easily identified, and otherwise denied the ability to resist.

The eventual goal would be to make Afghanistan so different from Pakistan, that there would be no return to the way things had been.

By being a controlled state for a few years, with serious modernization, there would be an utter rejection of going back to the old ways.


14 posted on 02/01/2009 2:18:52 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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During the Vietnam War, the North Vietnamese enjoyed the safety of sanctuaries in Cambodia from where they could launch attacks into South Vietnam. When Nixon bombed those sanctuaries in Cambodia, the Left painted the bombing as if it were a war crime.

Today, the Taliban and al Qaeda enjoy the safety of sanctuaries in Pakistan from where they could launch attacks into Afghanistan. When Obama bombed such a sanctuary in Afghanistan, the Left was silent on the issue.

Just pointing out the massive hypocrisy.

Fighting in Afghanistan will be just like fighting in South Vietnam during the Vietnam War. The enemy will fight on its own terms at a time and place of its choosing and retreat to a sanctuary when it chooses. That is a military situation where you can, at best, inflict casualties on the enemy but you can never "win" militarily unless you are willing to invade the sanctuary and annihilate your enemy there.

Sending, thirty, sixty or one hundred thousand more troops into Afghanistan will not change that dynamic.

Obama, a babe in the woods when it comes to military matters, will probably figure this out three years from now.

21 posted on 02/01/2009 3:03:11 PM PST by Polybius
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Afghanistan has been conquered often, but subdued rarely.

we are not trying to subdue *Afghanistan* just kill those Jihidist Taliban and Al Qaeda types. We've got plenty of Afghans who are on our side, or more properly we are on their side.

22 posted on 02/01/2009 4:37:50 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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