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In an about-face, Republicans push for cut-rate home loans in stimulus bill - 4%/30yrmortgage loans
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 013009 | Lisa Mascaro

Posted on 02/01/2009 10:12:39 AM PST by Fred

Washington — It sounds too good to be true, and it just might be: 4 percent, 30-year, fixed-rate mortgage loans to buy or refinance houses, guaranteed by Uncle Sam.

What homeowner in Nevada wouldn’t sign up? Thirty-year fixed-rate loans are going for just over 5 percent, an excellent rate by modern standards.

The 4 percent loans are among several housing-related provisions Sen. John Ensign and Republican leaders in the U.S. Senate are developing as alternatives to President Barack Obama’s nearly $900 billion economic recovery plan now before them.

Republican senators are hoping to put a more lasting imprint on the bill than their House colleagues were able to achieve — the House bill passed this week without a single Republican vote. Republicans complain the bill is bloated with excessive spending that will do little to achieve its goal of stimulating the economy.

Adding a more robust housing component is one way to attract attention, especially in Nevada, which has steadily led the nation in rate of foreclosures.

Nationwide, 2.3 million homes were in foreclosure in 2008, with more expected this year.

“How many of you would like a 4 percent mortgage?” Ensign asked this week in floating the plan. “You have to fix housing; otherwise I don’t think the economy is going to recover from this.”

No details about a 4 percent program were available Thursday. Presumably, borrowers would be required to meet stringent loan requirements of the kind the lending industry reinstated in the aftermath of the meltdown from subprime mortgages, which required little documentation of income or other evidence of ability to pay.

But more homeowners can meet tougher loan standards if rates drop from 5 percent to 4 percent.

Ensign said Republicans are considering a three-pronged housing strategy that includes the government-backed low-rate mortgages, a $15,000 tax credit for homebuyers and a yet-to-be outlined program to help homeowners whose mortgages are upside-down, which means the home’s value is less than the loan balance. Home values in Las Vegas are now at pre-bubble 2003 levels.

The urgency in addressing the mortgage mess is something Democrats regard as an about-face for Republicans. Many in the party dragged their feet in the spring and summer as Congress was trying to pass a bill to bring relief to homeowners as housing prices began their free fall.

Ensign himself stalled the bill for weeks as he tried to attach a provision for tax credits for renewable energy developers. At one point during the standoff, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said thousands of homes a day were falling into foreclosure while Senate Republicans held up debate.

Ensign ultimately voted against the bill, the only member of the Nevada delegation in Washington to do so. (He had supported an earlier version.)

Ensign’s office at the time said most of the calls from constituents were from those opposing the bill. In voting no, Ensign said at the time: “This bill, I believe, is dumping the burden onto the taxpayer and bailing out a lot of irresponsible lenders.”

This week, Ensign said things have changed.

“We’re in a different time,” he said. The economic problems are real and the mortgage mess is creating a downward spiral that is pushing Republicans to take steps they normally would not consider. “A lot of us would not like to have nearly the government involvement even close to what it is right now,” Ensign said.

Though Obama’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Act includes some aid for homeowners, broader solutions are being considered outside the debate over the stimulus bill.

A separate House-passed bill pushes the Treasury Department to provide mortgage relief by using up to $100 billion from the $700 billion Wall Street rescue fund. The new Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner, signaled Wednesday he was working on a plan.

Washington’s main response to the mortgage crisis so far has been last year’s landmark housing bill, which created the Hope for Homeowners program. The program was expected to help 400,000 homeowners work with their banks to write down loans to more affordable levels.

The program has fallen short. A report to Congress last month said only 300 loans were being reworked. Congress and the Bush administration blamed each other for the shortcomings, with experts saying the program stumbled for a variety of reasons as lenders were reluctant to take losses and borrowers were unable to meet eligibility requirements.

Bert Ely, a banking consultant watching the debate, said ideas for a government-run program to offer low, fixed-rate mortgages surfaced late last year. But interest in it waned once the costs were considered.

Republicans were not able to provide a cost estimate Thursday.

“When you start getting into the numbers, you start to realize it would be very difficult to execute and could be quite expensive,” Ely said. “You’re talking about millions and millions of mortgages.”

Democrats are willing to consider the Republican proposals, a spokesman for Reid said.

However, Democrats add that the bill does have housing provisions, including a $7,500 tax credit for those buying homes.

In the House, Nevada’s lawmakers tried to boost the housing provisions in the stimulus package that passed Wednesday evening.

Republican Rep. Dean Heller offered an amendment in the Ways and Means Committee that would have enhanced the $7,500 tax credit for homebuyers — much the way the Senate Republicans are trying now to raise it to $15,000.

Heller won support from Rep. Shelley Berkley, the only Democrat to support it, but the amendment died in committee on a party line vote.


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KEYWORDS: 111th; bailout; bhostimulus; ensign; geithner; gop; interestrates; mortgage; republicans
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1 posted on 02/01/2009 10:12:40 AM PST by Fred
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To: Fred; rabscuttle385; sickoflibs; xcamel

talk amongst yourselves


2 posted on 02/01/2009 10:14:24 AM PST by Fred ('The bigger the fix, the bigger the fool')
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To: Fred
“How many of you would like a 4 percent mortgage?”

I'd like a new M5, black please.

3 posted on 02/01/2009 10:17:09 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget (July 4, 2009 see you there))
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To: Fred

Well, it’s an idea beyond tax and spend...but a STUPID idea.

The Republicans still don’t seem to understand that the rut of this problem (as Jocelyn Elders used to say) is that there are TOO MANY HOUSES, and therefore we need to let the price drop enough so that supply eventually meets demand. This plan only kicks the problem down the road and makes it that much worse in the future by adding more houses, huge debt, and future obligations to our government. Japan anyone?

Let the housing market take care of itself, it’s doing everything right so far...and spend your time trying to deal with the rest of this mess.


4 posted on 02/01/2009 10:18:55 AM PST by BobL
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To: Fred

Hell I’ll take two!


5 posted on 02/01/2009 10:23:20 AM PST by linn37 (cue the circus music the democrats are back in charge)
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To: linn37

I think that is the goal, buy several if ya’ll have the capital and the credit.


6 posted on 02/01/2009 10:24:25 AM PST by Fred ('The bigger the fix, the bigger the fool')
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To: Fred

I believe that they should cut all interest rates to 4%. The money saved on homes would be spent on other things and end up back in the system. Same goes for credit cards. As it stands now, credit card rates steal the money that would help stimulate the economy. Will it ever happen? I doubt it. Keep the people broke and you have control of them.


7 posted on 02/01/2009 10:24:32 AM PST by RC2
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To: Fred
Government interference in the market = the mess we're in now.

Someone on our side needs to get out there and splain some basic econ 101 to the blithering blood suckers on the Government teat. Are there any leaders out there?

8 posted on 02/01/2009 10:25:59 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to the muzzies, but not to Rush)
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To: Fred

The problem is you could make mortgage rates zero for those who voted for zero and they would still default.

This “every American deserves their own home” nonsense was even pushed by Bush. Many people have no clue about budgeting.

There were illegal aliens making $20,000 a year pulling scams to “buy” $600,000 homes to get cash out at closing with nothing down.


9 posted on 02/01/2009 10:25:59 AM PST by Frantzie (Boycot GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC and Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: RC2
I believe that they should cut all interest rates to 4%.... Same goes for credit cards.

Ah...  Price controls. How Nixonian of you.

10 posted on 02/01/2009 10:26:44 AM PST by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Fred

Looks like I refinanced a month too early. I want a do-over.


11 posted on 02/01/2009 10:28:39 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: RC2

Try this novel approach.. DO NOT CARRY A BALANCE ON YOUR CREDIT CARD!!!!


12 posted on 02/01/2009 10:28:47 AM PST by Fred ('The bigger the fix, the bigger the fool')
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To: Fred

This bill has nothing to do with stimulating the economy. It’s one of many methods socialist use to advance their cause. Money is the carrot they dangle before people to tie many stipulations/regulations to the bill thereby exerting more control over the people. They created an outrageous piece of legislation knowing that they will never get everything and consequently making a compromise appear as if they are relenting when in fact they are still accomplishing their goal of more socialist regulations.


13 posted on 02/01/2009 10:30:33 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Redcloak

I’m not talking about price control. I am speaking of the idea that companies can take this action on themselves.


14 posted on 02/01/2009 10:43:30 AM PST by RC2
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To: Fred

I don’t like it.


15 posted on 02/01/2009 10:44:52 AM PST by dr_who
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To: Man50D
This bill has nothing to do with stimulating the economy. It’s one of many methods socialist use to advance their cause.

Amen. The Republicans should smarten up (I know, I know) and stay the Hell away from ANY stimulus package proposed by the Democrats. If the Democrats have any smarts, they will include a few of the Pubbie proposals in their package - and get their fingerprints all over it. Then when TSHTF, they can claim it was a bipartisan bill -- bipartisan being 1% Pubbie, 99% Democratic.

16 posted on 02/01/2009 10:47:57 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Man50D

Yep. Instead of trying to “fix” that pig of a bill, fillibuster! I believe that doing so would have a good deal of popular support and it would demonstrate that a few pubbies have grown a pair.


17 posted on 02/01/2009 10:52:57 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Man50D

notice how the congress people are protecting their own.

Barney Frank gets campaign donations and CAUSES fanie and freddie to collapse and CNN is silent. Wolf Blitzer is only concerned about his “access”.

Obama forces banks to lend to those with no job and no income but members of acorn, and MSNBC only wants tingly feelings.

The attack on wall street is about pushing the old Huey Long income cap.


18 posted on 02/01/2009 10:54:57 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Fred
As this thing (the economy) shakes out, I look for LV to be in dire straights with the only visitors being high rollers both international and national. I wonder if anyone has the accurate statistics outlining the number of speculators vs regular home buyers who have defaulted?

Up here in northern Nevada, in early 2006, a Realtor was walking down our street, knocking on doors asking if we wanted to sell our houses. It was bazaar! talk about writing on the wall.

19 posted on 02/01/2009 10:55:59 AM PST by Eighth Square
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To: Fred
Normally I wouldn't like this idea.

But Gov't mandates screwed up the entire housing market (CRA). So perhaps it will have to be a Gov't fix to bring relief to those very people it screwed.

Worth looking at...or at least debating in a high-profile way in order to who how ridiculous the new Dem giveaways are and how little they aid in the housing crisis.

20 posted on 02/01/2009 10:57:39 AM PST by what's up
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