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Creationist cosmologies explain the anomalous acceleration of Pioneer spacecraft
CMI ^ | Dr. Russell Humphreys

Posted on 01/30/2009 5:47:13 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Creationist cosmologies explain the anomalous acceleration of Pioneer spacecraft

by D. Russell Humphreys

A broad class of creationist cosmologies offer an explanation for the ‘Pioneer effect’, an apparent small Sunward anomalous acceleration of the Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft. If a large volume of empty space surrounds the matter of the cosmos, so that the cosmos can have a centre of mass, then the matter is in a deep gravitational potential ‘well’. If space is expanding and spreading the matter outward, then the depth of the well is decreasing. According to general relativity, especially a new solution of Einstein’s equations derived in the Appendix (which also deals with Birkhoff’s theorem), the decreasing depth continuously shortens ‘radar’ distances within the well, causing the observed apparent acceleration. The magnitude of the anomalous acceleration implies the bottom of the potential well has not yet risen very far above the critical depth for gravitational time dilation. Thus the Pioneer effect supports the essentials of several creationist cosmologies: a centre of mass, expansion of space and recent time dilation. Big bang theorists, whose cosmology does not have a centre of mass, cannot use this explanation. As yet, they have no alternative theory upon which they agree....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cosmology; creation; evolution; intelligentdesign
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To: tpanther
Now that they've got the pioneer data and they can predict the next event, or make new predictions based on such data, would you like a ping?

Yes. Please ping me when an event is observed that they predicted in advance of the observation.

21 posted on 01/31/2009 8:37:02 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; metmom; GodGunsGuts
Now that they've got the pioneer data and they can predict the next event, or make new predictions based on such data, would you like a ping?

Yes. Please ping me when an event is observed that they predicted in advance of the observation.

Tell us tacticalillogic, did Darwin go out and make his observations first and then make his predictions, or did he just make up his predictions and his observations came later?

22 posted on 01/31/2009 10:24:08 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
Tell us tacticalillogic, did Darwin go out and make his observations first and then make his predictions, or did he just make up his predictions and his observations came later?

Some of both.

Do you think misspelling my screen name is adding something to your argument?

23 posted on 01/31/2009 10:54:22 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Ahhhh, some of both, so can you tell us when it’s required to present each in what particular order?

You know something other than just your whim?


24 posted on 01/31/2009 11:09:55 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
Ahhhh, some of both, so can you tell us when it’s required to present each in what particular order?

First you develop a theory based on observations. Then you make predictions based on the theory, and see if the predictions are observed to be accurate.

I know when I'm being baited.

25 posted on 01/31/2009 11:19:31 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
First you develop a theory based on observations. Then you make predictions based on the theory, and see if the predictions are observed to be accurate.

So why did you demand the predictions be made before the observations again?

26 posted on 01/31/2009 11:37:44 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
So why did you demand the predictions be made before the observations again?

All I did was ask if it was predicted before it was observed.

27 posted on 01/31/2009 12:43:07 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Fichori

Of course the Earth is at/near the center of the Universe. God’s glorious Design is for our sake, and it’s fitting that we would have a place at center-stage, so to speak. Evo-Atheists have tried to belittle our position in order to make us some cosmic accident scattered at the fringes of an impersonal Cosmos.


28 posted on 01/31/2009 12:58:42 PM PST by ToGodBeTheGlory ("Darwinism" is Satanism.)
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To: tacticalogic

Nah, all you did was make a complete fool of yourself again.


29 posted on 01/31/2009 1:56:18 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

You’re going to need better insults.


30 posted on 01/31/2009 5:42:43 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Nah, you need to make better arguments.


31 posted on 02/01/2009 8:18:06 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

Peddle your flame war to somebody else.


32 posted on 02/01/2009 8:20:31 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ToGodBeTheGlory; metmom; Fichori
Well as much as I admire your passionate take on theology, it's not "earth" that's at the center of the universe, in theology

God is the center, He is the source of all creation. Man's relationship with God is the heart of the universe. Moreover it isn't a question of physical but spiritual.

33 posted on 02/01/2009 9:45:11 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: tacticalogic

Dismantling your nonargument isn’t a flame war, peddle your faux-victimhood somewhere else.


34 posted on 02/01/2009 11:15:38 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

Saying “dismantle” isn’t actually dismantling.


35 posted on 02/01/2009 3:12:04 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Except in this case.


36 posted on 02/01/2009 4:40:06 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

Because it’s you replying to me?


37 posted on 02/01/2009 4:49:10 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Because it’s you period.


38 posted on 02/01/2009 6:05:47 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
Because it’s you period.

So out of all the forum membership, you single me out for special treatment.

39 posted on 02/01/2009 6:07:28 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Bbbbut, that agrees with God, so it’s unscientific....


40 posted on 02/01/2009 6:26:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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