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Why Liberal Democrats Spend Your Tax Dollars So Merrily
The Corner on National Review ^ | 01/28/2009 06:44 PM | Michael G. Franc

Posted on 01/28/2009 4:34:05 PM PST by Smogger

With the congressional debate on the Obama/Pelosi/Reid debt bill has come an intense, and long overdue, debate on the proper role of government, its appropriate size and scope, and whether and when the private sector is a superior alternative to direct government action.

With that in mind, lawmakers and pundits everywhere would do well to commit these January 17-18th Rasmussen Poll numbers to memory. They explain why liberal Democrats seem so happy to sign on to nearly a trilion dollars (it's actually $953.3 billion in new spending plus interest) in new spending without missing a beat. Their constituents want it!

Overall, given the choice between more government services and higher taxes, or fewer services and lower taxes, likely voters opt for the limited government/low tax option by the comfortable margin of 61% to 25%. That’s pretty much where Americans have been for some time now.

But the story is dramatically different when you break down the electorate by ideology and partisan affiliation. We all know these divides exist, but I, for one, was surprised at the extent of the chasm.

Ideologically, the breakdown looks like this:

Conservatives Moderates Liberals

More gov’t/higher taxes 7% 28% 53%

Less gov’t/lower taxes 83% 54% 34%

And the partisan breakdown is similarly revealing:

Republicans Democrats

More Gov’t/higher taxes 7% 42%

Less Gov’t/lower taxes 83% 39%

These are dramatic differences that go a long way toward explaining why so many policy debates get so heated so quickly—partisanship and ideology are aligned so that your political enemies and your ideological opposites tend to be one and the same. It also explains why so many GOP members report near unanimous opposition among their constituents to the debt bill—and why 177 House Republicans exuded such supreme self-confidence in opposing the bill on final passage.

Interestingly, the 3-point edge among Democrats for bigger government and higher taxes is considerably smaller than the 19-point margin among liberals. Why? African-Americans, almost all of whom are Democrats and who presumably comprise a significant portion of the Democratic sample, favor smaller government and lower taxes by a wide margin, 53% to only 22%. White Democrats, in other words, resemble liberals in their fealty to big government while African-Americans take on a more conservative hue.


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhostimulus; borrowandspend; liberals; nro; obama; socialism; spending; spendingbill; taxandspend; taxes
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This is why the Republican minority in my state has been able to hold fast and not allow the Rats to increase taxes.
1 posted on 01/28/2009 4:34:06 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Smogger

They do it so merrily because it isn’t their frickin money!


2 posted on 01/28/2009 4:38:20 PM PST by ritewingwarrior (Just say No to socialism.)
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To: Smogger

Conservatives = Producers of taxes

Liberals = Consumers of taxes


3 posted on 01/28/2009 4:41:31 PM PST by Islander7 (LOST TAGLINE - If found, please return. LARGE Reward.)
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To: Smogger

Raise taxes, fund socialism and gun control. It’s all Democrats know.


4 posted on 01/28/2009 4:42:42 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: Smogger

Today, the bastards started spending the tax dollars of our children and grandchildren. “For the first time in my adult life,” I’M ASHAMED OF MY COUNTRY!


5 posted on 01/28/2009 4:43:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I wish it was 20 January 2013. I've had enough of this crap already.)
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To: Smogger
Liberal Democrats spend our money so readily because they know "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse...from the public treasury..." (Alexander Tyler, ~1750.) and they are trying to destroy our freedoms.
6 posted on 01/28/2009 4:47:15 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: Smogger

Why?
Because it gets them re-elected!


7 posted on 01/28/2009 4:47:19 PM PST by This_far
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To: Tarpon

It is NOT! They like for unborn babies to die, too.


8 posted on 01/28/2009 4:47:51 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: This_far

Why?
Because it gets them re-elected!
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It is amazing how many miss this primary FACT. This is exactly why the Obama mob will be sandbagging much of the money in this pork bill until election time -— they will try to work miracles on the economy with it, FOR VOTES.

It is all about POWER. Fanatic power.


9 posted on 01/28/2009 4:49:10 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Didn’t you Nanny say that abortion was a budget saver? More funds for there socialism.

By chance, have you seen the movie Soylent Green. If not, you should get yourself a copy and watch.


10 posted on 01/28/2009 4:50:14 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: Smogger

Because it’s not their money.


11 posted on 01/28/2009 4:55:44 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("Let 'em learn the hard way, 'cause teaching them is more trouble than they're worth,")
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To: Smogger

Because that’s how they get votes (by bribing voters with “helpful programs”) and votes are all they care about.


12 posted on 01/28/2009 5:02:03 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("Let 'em learn the hard way, 'cause teaching them is more trouble than they're worth,")
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To: Liz
Some of your posts indicate you might be interested in this:

Interestingly, the 3-point edge among Democrats for bigger government and higher taxes is considerably smaller than the 19-point margin among liberals. Why? African-Americans, almost all of whom are Democrats and who presumably comprise a significant portion of the Democratic sample, favor smaller government and lower taxes by a wide margin, 53% to only 22%. White Democrats, in other words, resemble liberals in their fealty to big government while African-Americans take on a more conservative hue.

13 posted on 01/28/2009 5:02:21 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: EagleUSA

“It is amazing how many miss this primary FACT. This is exactly why the Obama mob will be sandbagging much of the money in this pork bill until election time -— they will try to work miracles on the economy with it, FOR VOTES.

It is all about POWER. Fanatic power.”

Thanks (and also for bringing ‘power’ into this).
I thought of that after I posted. Through their election, I think, they (some) get self affirmation. (look at me, I’m ImpOtant!).

Some may remember the Gentleman Farmers who gave their (part)time to construct this nation. They didn’t waste their time on silly legislation.


14 posted on 01/28/2009 5:02:57 PM PST by This_far
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To: RWB Patriot

It is easy to spend what is not yours and keep yours to yourself. Therefore the Democrats will gladly spend their children’s and grand children’s money as they will not be around to be blamed for the extra burden placed upon the next generation.


15 posted on 01/28/2009 5:04:49 PM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: Tarpon

Yep, saw it many years ago.

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!


16 posted on 01/28/2009 5:10:46 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: Smogger
This is why the Republican minority in my state has been able to hold fast and not allow the Rats to increase taxes.

It's really worse than that, Democrats are way beyond spending the current "tax dollars", they don't have to anymore... they just authorize spending, and the deficits are being charged on Joe Taxpayer's Credit Card, with interest.

So they will bring the state to the brink of bankruptcy and then will claim that the taxes (or fees or other "revenue enhancements") have to be imposed or raised and "sacrifices to be shared", and will blame Republicans for deficits and "lack of fiscal responsibility".

17 posted on 01/28/2009 5:11:21 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Islander7

Conservatives = Producers of taxes

Liberals = Consumers of taxes”

You beat me to it!!!


18 posted on 01/28/2009 5:14:00 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yeah but the real message was the state control of both ends of the life cycle. Abort the young or ration birth rights, and deny medical care for the old. They had collapsed the top end to 40 years old, and then the cracker factory.

Abortion is just one step in that cog. The population bomb crackpots in the Obama administration tells the tale.


19 posted on 01/28/2009 5:14:14 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: RWB Patriot

Atlas Shrugged... live and in front of all of us.
The producers VS the looters.....


20 posted on 01/28/2009 5:15:08 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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