Posted on 01/28/2009 7:13:14 AM PST by pctech
President Obama wants a fresh approach to toppling Robert Mugabe and is discussing with aides an unprecedented, US-led diplomatic push to get tough new UN sanctions imposed against the Zimbabwe regime, The Times has learned.
During talks Mr Obama has had with his top Africa advisers in recent weeks, the central idea they focused on was taking the issue of Zimbabwe before the UN Security Council, but for the first time to combine such a move with an intense diplomatic effort to persuade Russia and China not to block the initiative.
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Nation building is not over. That poison will continue under Obama. As many of us said repeatedly during the campaign, ain’t a dime’s worth of difference between the Demopublicans.
We must absolutely keep track of all the leftist hypocrisy to point out that their complaints, both in the past and in the future, can be dismissed without comment,
because they obviously aren’t really a concern so much as just a complaint about having a conservative in charge.
“Just war” is now defined as “any war led by a DemocRat”.
(Code Pink, however, thinks NO use of force is legitimate)
Do you think at all anymore, or do you just spit out "liberal", "nanny state", or "freedom" when something challenges you?
Plus he just told the Arab press the other day the US was done dictating what other countries should be doing. What he really meant was that US was done telling Muslim countries what to do, and that Israel is the real enemy.
And isn’t Mugabee Oprah’s friend?
Maybe he will end up using the Noriega approach.
“What he really meant was that US was done telling Muslim countries what to do, and that Israel is the real enemy.”
I think you’re right.
Good question, I don’t really know. Anyone else have any thoughts or know if this is the case?
Its another quagmire.
He is pushing for more troops in Afghanistan.
What do we have to bribe them with? This one is a non-starter.
A key figure in any new approach will be Susan Rice, Mr Obama's UN ambassador, who was Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs in the Clinton administration and is a Zimbabwe expert..."Susan is extremely aware of what is going on in Zimbabwe and she feels very strongly that there is a tremendous miscarriage of justice in that country and that it has to end," the aide said.
Don't even dream that the "miscarriage of justice" referenced here is the eviction of white farmers from their land, the confiscation by the state of their private property, the beatings, the killings. That is, of course, the root of the problem, and failure to address it is only applying a bandaid to arterial bleeding, but the patient at this point is pretty much bled out.
The difficulty is that it will no longer be enough simply to remove Mugabe. He and ZANU-PF have had time sufficient to make the country not only incapable of supporting the old "racist" economy, but any economy at all. What is astounding is the number of progressives who still insist that it constitutes "social justice." That is the "justice" of universal poverty, universal starvation. Men are most equal when they are dead.
I agree with you.
Also, this is a European problem. Not a U.S. problem.
They take care of their African problems (which they haven’t) and we take care of the problems on this side of the globe...although Bush didn’t do one sinkin’ thing either...hence Chavez, Moralez, etc.
My best regards and sorry you were flamed by some whatever.
Ah.....a freeper standing up for the UN! Hmmm....I don't remember you praising the UN when Bolton, Horowitz and legions of freepers were bashing it and urging us to ignore its "mediation" when it contradicted U.S. policy.
Do you think at all anymore, or do you just spit out "liberal", "nanny state", or "freedom" when something challenges you?
We seem to have a philosophical disagreement. I don't sneer or "spit" at fragile and constantly threatened ideals such as "freedom." As to the term "liberal," I never used it in this conversation.
Believe it or not, the international/Obama nanny state which you uphold is NOT the same thing of saving kids from cholera. In fact, govenrments, both national and international, are the single greatest destroyers of economic well-being in the world. Perhaps you need to read P.T. Bauer instead of wating for President Messiah to wave his magic wand.
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