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The Drug War's Collateral Damage - Drug prohibition militarizes our police, enriches our...
Reason ^ | January 23, 2009 | Radley Balko

Posted on 01/24/2009 6:53:17 PM PST by neverdem

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To: SoCalPol
Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs

The war on guns

21 posted on 01/24/2009 11:44:20 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
The Drug War's Collateral Damage - Drug prohibition militarizes our police,

It's only collateral damage if it wasn't the intent to create a militarized police

22 posted on 01/25/2009 6:33:07 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Nate505

Barr voters.


23 posted on 01/25/2009 7:46:30 AM PST by steve8714 (How do you know your tattoo doesn't read "I love mangina."?)
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To: Force of Truth

You are a fool!


24 posted on 01/25/2009 7:51:02 AM PST by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: neverdem

And now Zero has the heavily armed, paramilitary forces he needs to more effectively control us. Police once knew that they were civilians. Now they have an us versus them attitude and consider themselves above we mere civilians.


25 posted on 01/25/2009 7:53:25 AM PST by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet)
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To: neverdem
As goes Raisch, so goes Stewart.

The tactics being adopted by the police are incompatible with a civilian polulation that has and exercises the right to keep and bear arms in defense of their property and families.

They operate under the assumptions that any substantial amount of cash you have in your personal posession is proceeds from the drug trade, that any dog they encouter on your property is going to attack them, and any civilian carrying a weapon is a threat to them.

26 posted on 01/25/2009 7:59:40 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: goldstategop

Amendment 9, Ratified 12/15/1791.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

‘Nuff said.

It’s none of the federal government’s damn business.

Keep me safe and leave me alone.


27 posted on 01/25/2009 8:51:59 AM PST by DNME ("When small men cast long shadows, the sun is about to set.")
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To: tacticalogic

That’s why you have to identify yourself as a policeman. You have to wear colors or something of the like that will give you identification.


28 posted on 01/25/2009 10:05:43 AM PST by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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To: DJ Taylor

They should have identified themselves as something other than two thugs. Easy as pie sir.


29 posted on 01/25/2009 10:07:14 AM PST by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Misterioso
You must be kidding.

You must be kidding that he was shot because he was exercising his right to have a firearm.

30 posted on 01/25/2009 10:09:36 AM PST by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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To: neverdem

The failed drug war is a farce. Thanks to the fWO(s)D, allergy sufferers nationwide have to sign up on a list to buy ephedrine. And it won’t be long before the JBTs are kicking in the door of one of those allergy sufferers and shooting their pets.


31 posted on 01/25/2009 10:10:28 AM PST by mysterio
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To: steve8714

Barr is a pretend libertarian.


32 posted on 01/25/2009 10:12:34 AM PST by mysterio
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To: verity

I am no fool. Those are my rights, not yours, not your policeman’s, not the POTUS, they are mine and mine alone and I will defend them as far as I have to.


33 posted on 01/25/2009 10:16:54 AM PST by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Force of Truth
That’s why you have to identify yourself as a policeman. You have to wear colors or something of the like that will give you identification.

That means no "plainclothes" operations, and it's not going to do your dog much good, and probably won't help much in a dynamic entry situation where you're confronting them in a dark hallway in the middle of the night.

34 posted on 01/25/2009 10:31:09 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Oh ok. So now your talking about something completely different. If the police where actually trying to raid your place for something you did that was illegal. I’m not even worried about that. Have you ever heard of a hobbit hole?


35 posted on 01/25/2009 10:52:38 AM PST by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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To: DJ Taylor

Lousiest opus ever. Bye-bye!


36 posted on 01/25/2009 10:54:09 AM PST by just deserts (Obama Lies, A Baby DIes)
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To: LeoWindhorse

“He could save enough money each year, by decriminalizing marijuana”

Do you mean “legalize,” regulate similar to the way we regulate alcohol? Or do you mean “decriminalize” like several states have already done where they don’t allow for production or sales and they give people what is basically like a traffic ticket when they find them with a small amount?


37 posted on 01/25/2009 10:54:10 AM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: Force of Truth
Oh ok. So now your talking about something completely different. If the police where actually trying to raid your place for something you did that was illegal. I’m not even worried about that. Have you ever heard of a hobbit hole?

It's all related. Mistakes have happened and will again. The police don't want to see innocent people get killed over a botched address on a warrant.

The more they come to rely on these tactics, the more they will be motivated to find ways to restrict or discourage people from exercising their right to keep and bear arms in defense of their families and homes in order to reduce the possiblity of those consequences.

38 posted on 01/25/2009 11:46:42 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SmallGovRepub

I think I mean legalize and decriminalize and grant an amnesty
and pardon to most if not all presently incarcerated for this very debatable crime . Exposed to the light of day ,and reality , in this way , it would cease to be a problem in so many ways , and cease to be a gigantic cost that we are all forced to bear . The laws ‘protect’ no one ,as anyone that is inclined to ‘smoke it ‘ will smoke it regardless . This is a set of laws that only creates victims and protects no one .
Parents being honest and open with their children is the answer , not draconian laws that criminalize millions for no good reason.


39 posted on 01/25/2009 1:48:23 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Force of Truth

You are a fool for your commentary at Post #3 and not #4.


40 posted on 01/25/2009 3:36:27 PM PST by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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