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Banks die too fast for regulators (BANK RUNS???)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 1/23/09 | Staff

Posted on 01/23/2009 12:27:03 PM PST by Golddigger3

Banking regulators across the country are struggling with a new phenomenon: Banks are failing with accelerating speed, exposing holes in the regulatory infrastructure designed to catch collapsing institutions. . . .

Of the 25 banks that failed in 2008, nine toppled before regulators publicly cracked down, including IndyMac Bank and the banking operations of Wahington Mutual Inc., two of the biggest seizures in U.S. history. . . .

The problem illustrates a fundamental weakness in the country’s regulatory infrastructure. The government is positioned to help banks if there is erosion in their capital levels, referring to the cushion banks hold against unexpected losses.

But that isn’t what happened last year. Instead, many banks faced a liquidity crisis as customers and business partners lost faith, shutting off the banks’ access to short-term cash. [Have we already had runs on various banks?]

“In 2008, we have seen institutions fail with greater velocity than in prior years,” says Scott Polakoff, senior deputy director at the Office of Thrift Supervision. “That greater velocity is driven by liquidity crises, not capital crises.” . . .

“For the most part, I think it was a tidal wave,” says Rob Braswell, the top bank regulator in Georgia, where five banks failed last year. Only one was under a public enforcement action at the time. [If last year was a tidal wave, what will this year be since the loses are now seen as much, much greater]. . .

Liquidity kills banks faster than anything, and regulators just don’t have time to issue cease-and-desist orders and take formal enforcement actions,” says Jaret Seiberg, a Washington analyst at Stanford Group, a financial-services company. “We’ve seen banks die within a matter of days and weeks, You go from having a cold to buried.”

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KEYWORDS: banklist; economy
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To: Golddigger3

I have my little bit of money at TD Banknorth and have been told since it is a Canadian bank it is immune to the problems here in the US. I cannot find any information about its trustworthyness or solidity. At least not on the net


41 posted on 01/23/2009 1:25:24 PM PST by Chickensoup (we owe HUSSEIN & Democrats the exact kind respect & loyalty that they showed us, Bush & Reagan)
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To: Palladin; Red in Blue PA
Mattress

Gun safe!

42 posted on 01/23/2009 1:47:51 PM PST by JDoutrider (Heading to Galt's Gulch... It is time.)
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To: Axenolith

>>The problem is that the notional value of the worthless assets of any given one of todays institutional failures is equal to the entire value of failures of the S&L crisis... <<

OK, that’s kind of scary...


43 posted on 01/23/2009 1:51:19 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: AvOrdVet

44 posted on 01/23/2009 1:51:42 PM PST by blam
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To: Golddigger3

...misleading headline with even more misleading editorial comment. Everyone knows about the big investment banks that already failed.

Go ahead, though. Scaring others with baseless implications that local deposit banks are failing will help to end the trade imbalance regime and clear the way for more domestic manufacturing. Bring on the panics and defaults.


45 posted on 01/23/2009 1:56:20 PM PST by familyop (This message was brought to you by the higher freight fuel and lower dollar of tomorrow.)
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To: blam

Thanks, I’ll have to work on that! kinda disconcerting chart though...


46 posted on 01/23/2009 2:00:02 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: familyop
Scaring others with baseless implications that local deposit banks are failing will help to end the trade imbalance regime and clear the way for more domestic manufacturing. Bring on the panics and defaults.

If don't acknowledge it or haven't seen it coming and prepared... hold on tight for the ride!

47 posted on 01/23/2009 2:03:14 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: familyop
Scaring others with baseless implications that local deposit banks are failing will help to end the trade imbalance regime and clear the way for more domestic manufacturing. Bring on the panics and defaults.

If you don't acknowledge it or haven't seen it coming and prepared... hold on tight for the ride!

48 posted on 01/23/2009 2:03:31 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet

My first double post.... My Bad ;-(


49 posted on 01/23/2009 2:05:48 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: familyop
...misleading headline with even more misleading editorial comment. Everyone knows about the big investment banks that already failed.

The article was about the entire banking system, including local and regional banks. All bank levels are receiving bailout money and are failing.

50 posted on 01/23/2009 2:17:49 PM PST by Golddigger3
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To: cspackler

I had the experience of briefing an aerospace industry COO who had 60,000 people working for him and a salary of $20M/year. Every 15 minutes he made a decision that could make or lose millions for the company. If he made a lot of wise decisons, he was well worth it. One of his decisions resulted in the company earning an EXTRA $1.5B in profit on a bomber that we brought in ahead of schedule and under budget.


51 posted on 01/23/2009 2:39:39 PM PST by darth
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To: Golddigger3

Good ETN info.....
I would be wary of ETFs too especially gold and silver ETFs. No way do they physically control the amount of gold that corresponds to what investors have put into those funds. They have paper claims on physical gold


52 posted on 01/23/2009 2:42:02 PM PST by dennisw (Meshuggah Muhammad put the following words in the mouth of his sock puppet deity...................)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Amen to that!


53 posted on 01/23/2009 3:04:45 PM PST by Eighth Square
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To: dennisw
No way do they physically control the amount of gold that corresponds to what investors have put into those funds.

I see articles lauding the GLD ETF for always keeping almost 100% of the gold represented by the stock. Why do you doubt them?

54 posted on 01/23/2009 3:06:44 PM PST by Golddigger3
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To: Golddigger3
I am 75 and must withdraw funds from my IRAs so I took $4,000 in CASH out of one at a large west coast bank on Tuesday and then I went to another bank that could be in trouble and took $4,500 out of a MMA. Told them both I was going on a antiques buying trip. I am thinking about making space in a building and buying large quantities of non-perishable food for later barter and to feed my family. This may not work for those of you in the freezer belt as you don't want it to freeze canned goods. I have no faith in the FDIC.

Now if I can keep First Wife from finding it and investing it at one of the Casinos..

55 posted on 01/23/2009 3:57:05 PM PST by tubebender (Your Tag Line offends me...)
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To: Golddigger3
"The article was about the entire banking system, including local and regional banks. All bank levels are receiving bailout money and are failing."

That's not true of many smaller deposit banks. But you can try to scare savings/capital accounts out of them, if you like.

I'm all for it, because small projects with local capital will continue. Prospects for overseas shipping loans will dry up. The dollar must fall, and freight fuel prices will continue to rise soon (likelihood of wars and re. Asia's stronger manufacturing and demand balances despite propaganda to the contrary).

Global imbalances have needed correction from the beginning of the big folly. The Ponzi schemes at various levels of it could only go on for a definite time.


56 posted on 01/23/2009 4:22:44 PM PST by familyop (This message was brought to you by the higher freight fuel and lower dollar of tomorrow.)
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To: Golddigger3

Many are to the point where they could care less about the banksters.

It’s so bad, many people are now hoping someone steals their identity, so the crooks can assume their debt.


57 posted on 01/23/2009 4:31:01 PM PST by dragnet2 (Bush's legacy is Obama)
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To: Chickensoup
since it is a Canadian bank it is immune to the problems here in the US

Sounds like someone hasn't been candid with your.

They are scrambling to raise capital as well.

"Equity - Two Canadian banks sought to boost their capital reserves once more Thursday, issuing new preferred equity offerings"
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/calgarybusiness/story.html?id=09de84d9-d2e2-4e76-b06c-52c1a3d7b707

The Canadian government is also looking at setting up a bank bailout plan.

58 posted on 01/23/2009 4:38:11 PM PST by PAR35
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To: AvOrdVet

Remember to check those rates against my bank’s.

I use Mattress Savings and Loan.


59 posted on 01/23/2009 4:46:13 PM PST by jacquej
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To: AvOrdVet
"If you don't acknowledge it or haven't seen it coming and prepared... hold on tight for the ride!"

...a place over 100 miles from the nearest city, and it's off the grid. :-) Here's more information.

Manufactured scarcity The profits of deindustrialisation
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2122661/posts

See "Club of Rome," "Club for Growth" and other constituent groups behind the trend.


60 posted on 01/23/2009 4:47:33 PM PST by familyop (As painful as the global laxative might be, maybe our "one world" needs a good cleaning.)
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