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KBR Possibly To Be Charged With Negligent Homicide [Kellog Brown & Root / AKA Halliburton]
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Posted on 01/22/2009 8:23:14 PM PST by smokingfrog

BREAKING NEWS CNN (January 22/2009) 3:55pm EST:

KBR, formally Halliburton, a private contractors, through shoddy work caused electrocution deaths of U.S. soldiers in army bases in Iraq.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brownandroot; brownroot; civiliancontractors; electrocution; halliburton; iraq; kbr
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1 posted on 01/22/2009 8:23:17 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

I refuse to give CNN the hits.

If this company did do shoddy work that resulted in the deaths of our folks, then they should be up on charges. I don’t see how what company it is makes any difference.

If they were negligent and it resulted in death - they should be charged with negligent homicide. What is so confusing about that?


2 posted on 01/22/2009 8:31:09 PM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: smokingfrog
I worked for KBR in Afghanistan and saw some shoddy electrical work. In fact, I saw someone's living quarters burn down as a result of shoddy electrical work (unoccupied at the time). However, in that case, it wasn't shoddy "work" per se, but properly installed parts which were defective.

In the case of the fire, I don't think those at fault (if they could ever be identified) even worked for KBR. Don't misunderstand me and think that I'm sticking up for all things KBR. I'm just saying that it can get quite complicated.

3 posted on 01/22/2009 8:32:24 PM PST by squidly
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To: TheBattman
I refuse to give CNN the hits.

Then don't. Just click the link given. :-)

4 posted on 01/22/2009 8:32:34 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: TheBattman

BE suspicious. IF they did it, yes, they deserve to be investigated. But this stinks of libs going after Cheney and HB deep pockets to me. At least they can cause them to rack up amazing legal costs. They have always hated Haliburton and Cheney, too.

I mean, really, they cannot be doing it because they passionately want to protect our soldiers....


5 posted on 01/22/2009 8:34:04 PM PST by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: smokingfrog

There is some amount of truth to this. I’m not directly involved, but sub-contractors were used and some people got hurt or killed.


6 posted on 01/22/2009 8:40:12 PM PST by TheZMan (Secede.)
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To: smokingfrog

Funny how CNN has the ability to find a “scoop” when it wants to while at the same time being in the dark on others.


7 posted on 01/22/2009 8:40:50 PM PST by eaglestar
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To: smokingfrog
For Godsakes! The CNN guy is laughing as he begins the report. Funny effing stuff to that clown - US soldiers being electrocuted.

I really can't believe I just saw that! He's freaking giddy!

8 posted on 01/22/2009 8:50:34 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: smokingfrog
I don't know the details, but it appears to be the opinion of a single investigator, so far.

If they are going to charge somebody with "negligent homicide" they better have a real good case.

They were tasked with building fast, cheap housing in a war zone! It's not going to be very easy to get companies to work for the military if they're going to be sued everytime a single mistake is made.

I don't mean to sound callous over the death of the soldier, because I'm not, but it was a war zone and I'm sure the work is not easy for anybody over there.

By the way, the assclown reporter wrapped up with "Good stuff!" Seriously.

9 posted on 01/22/2009 8:55:42 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: squidly

In Afghanistan, host country national did the work, and the military QA/QC signed off after completion. KBR employees were only there to monitor the hajii’s.


10 posted on 01/22/2009 9:00:40 PM PST by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: dead

“Good Stuff” - Rick Sanchez, CNN
No bias there! None whatsoever! Move along now!


11 posted on 01/22/2009 9:02:25 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Know the difference between honoring diversity and honoring perversity? No? You must be a liberal!)
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To: LayoutGuru2

The smug mug “reporter” is definitely over the top. The fact that shoddy work was reported and not corrected is a real problem. Looks like we ma have some FReepers that can provide some insight. I feel sorry for the soldier’s family.


12 posted on 01/22/2009 9:13:35 PM PST by smokingfrog (Never underestimate the influence of a wife who bitch-slaps her husband in public.)
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To: smokingfrog

If they’re going after Bush, they’ll go after KBR/Halliburton. In fact, I’m surprised that B.O. didn’t sign an executive order today to disallow any government contracts with them.


13 posted on 01/22/2009 9:36:05 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

There’s always tomorrow.


14 posted on 01/22/2009 9:48:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: 01/22/09 Obama hands the hope of the unborn to terrorists.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

We’ve known about Brown & Root since LBJ.


15 posted on 01/22/2009 9:56:16 PM PST by lonestar
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To: Sarajevo
In Afghanistan, host country national did the work, and the military QA/QC signed off after completion. KBR employees were only there to monitor the hajii’s.

Not so, at least not in '06 and '07 when I was there. In the case I'm talking about, I personally know the guy who did the electrical work. HCNs did things like take out trash, clean latrines, wash dishes etc. They also served as translators. I never knew of any HCN doing anything like electrical, plumbing, water treatment, carpentry, food prep, or any other job requiring any kind of specialization. Just general labor and translation.

Military QA/QC did not maintain "direct" supervision over much of anything. They came around and looked things over once in a while, maybe once a month, if that.

16 posted on 01/22/2009 9:56:35 PM PST by squidly
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To: TheBattman

It’s one thing to allow a negligence lawsuit, and another altogether to bring criminal charges against the company. Prosecutors typically reserve criminal indictments against companies for companies with widespread criminal activities—companies that are essentially “criminal organizations.” An indictment can bring down a company, and it’s inappropriate if it’s just in response to an isolated incident.


17 posted on 01/22/2009 9:58:14 PM PST by Arguendo
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To: TheBattman

>>If this company did do shoddy work that resulted in the deaths of our folks, then they should be up on charges. I don’t see how what company it is makes any difference.

If they were negligent and it resulted in death - they should be charged with negligent homicide. What is so confusing about that?<<

Agreed.... but

I wish i had confidence that the decision to prosecute will be made independent of politics. If would be grossly unfair if this were prosecuted to punish KBR for doing business with the government in Iraq.


18 posted on 01/22/2009 10:41:28 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: gondramB; All

Ok, this is beyond the pale...KBR was a subsidiary of Halliburton. Halliburton started out and has ALWAYS been an oilfield service company, and by oilfield service, I mean well casing cementing, coil tubing, fracturing, wireline, nitrogen, Baroid fluid services, Sperry directional drilling services, NOT construction, electrical or any of the things that KBR did BEFORE they were purchased by Halliburton. KBR was purchased at a time, and then sold because of this exact thing. KBR was causing sensational bad press for Halliburton. They can go after KBR all they want, IF there was an issue. sorry had to rant...


19 posted on 01/22/2009 11:54:53 PM PST by intenseracer (Welcome to the Obamanation!!! now where my money at?)
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To: LayoutGuru2

Rick Sanchez, CNN

I think Rush mentioned him today. He was not flattering his assessment.


20 posted on 01/23/2009 12:10:03 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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