Why are certain Republicans anti-Palin ?

I don't that our party is doing enough to unite behind Sarah. I feel that there is a steady effort to disown her at the RNC and among East Coast elites.

But I have also talked to some run of the mill conservatives recently who are not Palin fans, and that shocked.

I get the feeling that Governor Palin has a lot of work to do. 2012 will be an uphill battle. But I wanted to ask you all..

Why are so many Republicans dead set against her ? and why is her support seemingly frozen at the moment ? Palin fatigue ?

“I wish she would run as an independent.”

That worked great for President Anderson, President Wallace, President Nader, President Perot, President Buchanan, etc. Oh. I missed Presidents Barr, Browne, Baldwin, Keyes, and others.

Probably Nader impacted 2000 favorably for the GOP, and Buchanan impacted 2000 unfavorably for the GOP. Many think Perot impacted 1992 unfavorably for the GOP.

2012 will be the centennial of the last time the Republican Party failed not only to win but even to place in a presidential election. And after the McCain debacle, the Republican Party can either nominate a conservative (whether or not named Palin) or it can mark that anniversary of that signal failure by repeating it.
That's not a threat, because as a New Yorker I have no effective vote for POTUS anyway. It is merely a prediction. If you RINOs couldn't win with Rush doing his best for you, what do you expect to happen in '12 if you win the nomination again, and Rush (and conservatives generally) says, "been there, done that" and does not support you?

“My theory, for what little it may be worth, is that for the past twenty years or so RATs have been infiltrating, slowly sliding the party leftward. The number of RINOs seems to have increased exponentially over the years; that may be one explanation.

They’ll appear to support Republican candidates, but always the least capable or farthest left.

Your mileage may vary.”

My theory is that there are 435+100+1 national positions. The result is the choice of the voters.

If Tom McClintock can’t get elected Governor of California, but Arnold can-—that is nobody’s conspiracy—that is the choice of the voters.

Reagan wrote and ran for years. He was a BIG political figure.

We don’t get many BIG political figures. Don’t expect great results from puny candidates.

Oh yeah. The GOP brand got trashed by 8 years of Bush. Five years in an unpopular, unexplained, unfinished war and an economy with no bottom. And virtually no effective communication whatsoever.

It will take some good people and some hard work.

Here is the latest from the IDEA party:

Out of control spending.

Unconstitutional use of taxpayers money.

Drugs for seniors.

John McCain.

Pandering to criminal invaders who vote against them.

I have more I just do not fell like typing more.

She needs to get her voice and face out there at every opportunity; the Senate might be her best bet. I'm certainly in her corner.

No way in hell should Palin run for the Senate. Nearly every conservative who enters that damn place turns into a squishy moderate brain dead blob. Sarah Palin should keep doing what she did for Saxby Chambliss in GA. Campaign around the country on other candidates behalf, give speeches to get her positions out there and be the best Alaskan Governor she can be.

For years the leftist arrogant snobs constantly cast aspersions upon Ronald Reagan’s intellect - retrieve their articles and it is all there. As a matter of fact, Ann Coulter’s first works pointed to the media big lie of Republicans being dumb. Sarah Palin is but one in a long line of conservative Republicans that have been easier to thwart by painting them as dumb rather than getting into the pit and debating their ideas.

Sarah Palin gave birth to a retarded child rather than murder it in the womb - for that she will never be forgiven.

The loudest voice carries the day.

A lot of Republicans are pretty establishment. They aren't risk takers, by nature. Most of the talk of rugged individualism is just that: talk. They have a romance for that archetype, but they don't come very close to living it.

Palin didn't go to the right schools. In fact, to the establishment, she went to too many schools, also. She has no establishment pedigree. She is successful, smart, and tough, but too many of the traditional GOP guard just can't see part a fairly narrow spectrum.

I think Palin is awesome, but I can't evaluate her clearly at this point. Has she been reduced to a punch line, a la Dan Quayle? Has the media made her impotent, like Dubya? I don't think so, but I don't know.

Traditionally, a losing major party VP candidate goes nowhere. The last one who made it was FDR. That's a long way away. If the media has marginalized Palin, it's too late - there's not much she can do. To the extent that some conservatives are aligning against her, that's even worse.

If you just play the odds, it would seem that Palin is going nowhere nationally. Yet, she is a sassy, tenacious, smart, attractive, and engaging candidate (I think) with enough regular folks that she just may buck the odds.

If Barry has a few major flops under his belt and an aura of underachievement, he will be put in a position in 4 years to actually defend his record. That would be a first for him. Can he do it? Do romantic crushes last long? do people look at a crush a few years later and think warm, happy thoughts, or do they think “what the hell was I thinking?”

How that plays out will largely determine whether we have a 2nd Obama term or not.

Because she has odd speech patterns, which they consider “bumpkin-like.”

Cook County,

When I heard Palin it was like a breath of fresh air. I know that accent just like I knew my Grandma's pan fried chicken and shortbread "Spritz" cookies. That was a Pacific North West accent with a touch of Idaho twang. To me it was as familiar as the cry of a seagull and the smell of roasting Salmon.

A lot of people who don't travel much don't realize how many regional accents we have in our nation. We have had Boston and New York accents pushed down our throats by the national media for decades. There wasn't any one from the PNW on the national stage before Palin so a PNW accent is unfamiliar to most people.

Yet that is not why they jumped on her and not why many of us ran to be counted with her. I saw Sarah Palin on a video of her stop here in Asheville North Carolina. She was on stage with a bunch of southern gals singing and clapping to Gretchen Wilson's "I'm a Red Necked Woman" like she was kin. And this is her power: she is kin.

What, you say, how can someone from way up north and out west be kin to those in the South and all over the country who were electrified by her? Culture. Culture trumps all.

When she came on the national stage last fall, the electricity with Sarah Palin was immediate. It needed no words. She communicated it in everything that she was. We knew it and it was explosive. "She is one of us"

There is a lot of analysis here of Sarah and if she is the right candidate and if she can improve. I am sure she will improve if she chooses to run again. For a very good assessment of Sarah by a very sharp commentator read Camille Paglia. She has one of the most intelligent insights that I have read into who Sarah is and what she can do.

There will not ever be a candidate who represents what we believe in that they will not oppose tooth and nail. The bottom line is that they will fight anyone who represents us because they hate us.

As I've said to you before, I hope you can relax about all this. Gov. Palin is in great shape. The reason that the RNC and the East Coast elites, as you called them, want to disown Sarah is because she owns the GOP grassroots right now and they know it. She is robbing them of their ability to "steer the GOP ship" in the (RINO) direction they want to go and it's killing them. The current RNC chairmanship race is a prime example of that. It's chaos and the outcome is out of their hands.

As for folks you've talked to, don't sweat it. Recent polls show a broad majority of voters across party lines think Gov. Palin got a raw deal from the press, regardless of how they voted Nov. 4, which suggests she'll get a 2nd look from the voters if she decides to run in 2012. She's got work to do but she's in charge of her destiny no matter what the MSM says.

With some conservatives it's a class and educational background issue whether they admit it or not. Don't worry about that. Washington is overrun with Ivy League graduates and they've practically wrecked this country. Many of the "elites" thought Reagan was a loser as well. It drove them nuts after his loss to Ford for the nomination in 1976 when he would make statements like "My theory of the Cold War is we win, and they lose." Three years after he made that statement he was elected President and 12 years after that, the Cold War was over.

Sarah Palin's destiny is in her own hands and I'm very confident about that. You should be as well.

Sarah Palin gave birth to a retarded child rather than murder it in the womb - for that she will never be forgiven.

The loudest voice carries the day.

Also, I tend to think that women won’t go for her. She is attractive for her mid 40s, and will likely be a good looking woman in her late 40s.

Now, plenty of women of all political stripes just aren’t nearly as good looking as Palin. In fact they tend to have fallen apart earlier than that. Ask any attractive woman and they will tell you that while conventional wisdom suggests that men are more derisive of attractive women (considering them sex objects), they tend to get more heat from other woman - usually women who aren’t as goodlooking as they are.

Single women look at her and see a sexual rival. That seldom goes over well. Single women also love their abortion (its their failsafe birth control), and Palin talks tha pro life talk and walks the pro life walk.

Single and married women also are screw ups when it comes to ‘having it all.’ Again, they talk a mean game but whenever most try to have it all, they end up underachieving in both social life and career. Palin didn’t underachieve. For all the talk of women rallying around role models, that;s a lot of baloney. They rally around their enablers. They always have, they probably always will.

Palin doesn’t elevate women. She reminds the average woman of how big a screw up she is. To that kind of woman, the Palins of the world have got to go.

The first time I see Sarah has a legitimate election campaign and means to donate by credit card, it's gonna become like the lights, electricity, phone and water bills combined. I'm gonna donate REGULARLY - screw the limits. I'll just change names each time like Obama's foreign contributors.

Hear, hear. I will turn my pockets inside out for her, and at least for now, they're fairly deep pockets. My wife is a bigger Sarah fan even than I, and will have no problem with cutting back on other expenditures if it comes to that.

I expect her to be the first candidate to raise a billion dollars. However, I suspect she's too honest to allow her flunkies to turn off all the credit card security like Obama did. She'll get it fair and square.

-ccm

Why are certain Republicans anti-Palin ?

Some of them are just outright frauds. Recently on one message board I ran across a woman who claimed that when McCain chose Palin as his running mate, thats when she switched over to support Obama (she also said that she was a Republican)

Suspicious, I looked up her previous posting history on that board and found another message in which she pretty much claimed the same thing....that she turned against the Republican ticket because McCain named Palin as his running mate.

I dug a little further and discovered not one but several posts she made MONTHS before McCain announced his VP pick, in which she declared her support for Obama and intention to vote for him.

I made a post detailing her lie, and provided links to her previous posts declaring her support for Obama long before Palin was named as VP pick.

I wondered if she would see my post exposing her lie. I got my answer when she switched her posting history to "private". Thereby preventing anyone ever again from looking up her old posts ever again.

Have you listened to that prank call perpetrated on her by those french-canucks? She came off like a fool.

Are you aware that the call went through at least three layers of screeners, including her own chief of staff, before she was handed the phone and told the President of France was on the other end? I'd like to see how you would have handled that, or Obama for that matter. I think she did fine.

“When she came on the national stage last fall, the electricity with Sarah Palin was immediate. It needed no words. She communicated it in everything that she was. We knew it and it was explosive. “She is one of us””

“The bottom line is that they (the media) will fight anyone who represents us because they hate us.” Solar Wind

LOVED YOUR POST!!!

“The people that run the Republican party are not actually conervatives.”

Well the most recent person that “ran” the Republican party was GW Bush.

During his tenure, the party seemed to favor the person most likely to be able to win an election, not the most conservative.

Now I am waiting for somebody to explain the track record for Conservatives OUTSIDE the GOP winning elections in recent history.

IOW the logical vehicle for Conservative individuals to run and win, is in the GOP.

And the logical thing for a political party to do is support candidates most likely to win.

The idea the party must always cling to a narrow definition of idealogy is not rational, with 435+100+1 races to run in.

All politics is local. One race at a time. Get involved with individuals you like and can support, and forget about a national party always pleasing you.

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