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The original BSG really wasn't very good. I understand the "re-imagined" version is vastly superior. I wouldn't know. I've never seen it. When they decided to be politically correct and "re-imagine" Starbuck and Boomer into women, I immediately wrote them off.
1 posted on 01/20/2009 8:30:15 AM PST by EveningStar
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As a fan of the old and the new, I must say the new one is slipping a bit, but as long as Lucy Lawless is on, I'll be watching. I have no idea what her character is, I just like to stare at her.
30 posted on 01/20/2009 8:47:15 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: EveningStar
I don't know what your definition of “Good” is. Was it a critical star? Probably not. Was it extremely fun to watch? Absolutely.
32 posted on 01/20/2009 8:48:01 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: EveningStar
I kept hearing about how great the new Battlestar Galatica was. I watched it, and tried to like it. Really, I did. I've always liked Edward James Olmos, and some of the new (and old) characters intrigued me. For instance, I was not turned off by a "Female Starbuck".

But, even with trying, I just couldn't get into the series. While the old one was campy and fun, the new one just took itself far too seriously.

39 posted on 01/20/2009 8:55:32 AM PST by wbill
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To: EveningStar

I bet the original Starbuck misses those swift costumes he got to wear playing that ball game.


44 posted on 01/20/2009 8:59:23 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: stylecouncilor; raven92876

ping


45 posted on 01/20/2009 8:59:56 AM PST by windcliff
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To: EveningStar
The original Battlestar was great. And that's a great essay.

I watch very little TV. I'm into this season's 24 and I liked the first season of Heroes (then it went to crap).

49 posted on 01/20/2009 9:04:12 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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They should have just made a completely new series instead of stealing the title, names and loosly the theme. I might have enjoyed it, had they been more original. I am an old BSG fan from childhood. It was light hearted and fun. Something 8 to 30 somethings could watch.

This series was too dark for even my teenagers to watch. sad.

50 posted on 01/20/2009 9:06:34 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: EveningStar

What’s next...

Mr T is recast as Mrs T?

I think he has a point!


51 posted on 01/20/2009 9:07:16 AM PST by OL Hickory (Where is the America I knew as a boy?)
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Part 2.....

He has a point..Look at the awful version of Dukes of Hazzard with knoxville. Re-wrote and trult awful


55 posted on 01/20/2009 9:09:01 AM PST by OL Hickory (Where is the America I knew as a boy?)
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They will tell you it is (still) about story and character, but all it is really about is efficiency.

Sorry, Dirk. It's about pushing a political agenda now. Making money is beside the point, as the relevant stock prices clearly show. If Hollywood were still about making money, there wouldn't be so many of their movers and shakers lining up to create yet-another-insanely-budgeted-colossal-box-office-flop-with-a-liberal-message blunder.

Yet they do.

The financial success of non-liberal movies is plain to see for anyone who cares to check. Star Wars had no qualms about naming good "Good" and evil "Evil". Non-leftist movies hold the box-office records! The Passion of The Christ, Titanic, Finding Nemo, Gone With the Wind, The Sound of Music, The Ten Commandments... and the list goes on and on. But those kinds of obviously successful films are in the distinct minority today.

No, Hollywood cares about their political message. Even though leftist movies don't make money, in comparison with non-leftist movies, that's where their hearts are. They care about slamming conservatives and the values they hold dear. Hollywood hates America and her bold success. Those in power there long to see us fail.

57 posted on 01/20/2009 9:11:01 AM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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The new show is politically neutral, as far as I can detect. The drama is first rate. Even my non-scifi wife likes it, and it is the only show we regularly watch together.

The only evil and stupidity involved in the show is how Sci-fi channel execs are handling it as a “franchise”.


59 posted on 01/20/2009 9:12:25 AM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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I’m kind of intrigued by the plot but Dirk is right, its dark, moody and depressing. And for what its worth, everybody looks sweaty and stinky, especially the women.


64 posted on 01/20/2009 9:18:54 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My grandpa started walking five miles a day when he was 60..Now we don't know where he is.)
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One thing is certain. In the new un-imagined, re-imagined world of “Battlestar Galactica” everything is female driven. The male characters, from Adama on down, are confused, weak and wracked with indecision, while the female characters are decisive, bold, angry as hell, puffing cigars (gasp!) and not about to take it any more.

I guess he hasn't been watching the show. Adama has kept the fleet going by sheer force of will. Apollo has grown into a true leader. Colonel Tigh, despite all of his faults, has saved the fleet numerous times. Halo survived, alone, on Caprica for months and is sort of the moral voice for the characters. Anders was a sports star who rallied and saved hundreds of survivors of nuclear holocaust long enough to be rescued by the fleet. And so on.

65 posted on 01/20/2009 9:22:37 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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LOL! Excellence article. There is no masculinity anymore. Have you noticed that the females in movies now days are taller than the males?

This looks like the new "Republican Feminist Party"!

68 posted on 01/20/2009 9:24:13 AM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Communism, Fascism, Socialism)
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To: EveningStar

I thought the original BSG was a whole lotta schlock... The present version is darker, but well done. I couldn’t care if Starbuck and Boomer were women.


69 posted on 01/20/2009 9:24:24 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: EveningStar
When they decided to be politically correct and "re-imagine" Starbuck and Boomer into women, I immediately wrote them off.

Starbuck isn't a very politically correct characters. She's self-destructive, self-absorbed, promiscuous and a drunk.

The Boomer in this show needed to be female to make her storyline work.

The new BSG added significant female characters for legitimate story-telling reasons, not political correctness. It's one of the least polically correct shows on television (witness the abortion episode, for example).

71 posted on 01/20/2009 9:27:22 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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It wasn’t politically correct, it was simply recognizing change, and getting a better mix for character interaction. In the intervening years women have taken much more frontline duties in the military including combat pilot, had they kept the old show’s mix of all the pilots being guys and women all minding the store it would have been out of touch with the modern world.


75 posted on 01/20/2009 9:33:40 AM PST by dilvish
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To: EveningStar
Bleak. That is the word.

I saw the opening eps and was impressed, but more by the budget and the nice hardware. As the series moved on, I lost all interest, and this article capsulises it perfectly as to why.

The old series Cylons were unstoppable evil. You couldn't reason with them, because their reasons for wanting us dead were their own. The series was an outgrowth of SovUnion paranoia, even the KGB complained so. But it was a series that said, "even at the worst, we will survive, we will overcome, we will win."

When I saw the ads that it would be back, I thought "Brilliant! The Cylons as Muslims! They cannot be reaonsed with, they cannot be understood...they must be stopped." And then I found out that, like TODAY's Hollywoood wants to preach, bad is good, good is bad, and we are the REAL monsters. Sad.

79 posted on 01/20/2009 9:39:11 AM PST by 50sDad (WARNING: This thread may result in several billion posts.)
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I have to agree with Dirk, the New Galactica sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks. I turn it on each week and I’ve never made it through the full 60 minutes of the show. I keep hoping for it to get better, but it never does. And so a half hour into each episode I turn to the Discovery Channel or something else with more appeal like the Golf Channel.
I really miss well written entertaining programs.


81 posted on 01/20/2009 9:40:09 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: EveningStar

I haven’t had TV since 1997 but was a big fan of the original series back in the day. When my daughter offered to loan me her DVD copy of the first season of the new series I thought it would be great. It was at first. I loved the special effects and there were some interesting story twists.

Unfortunately I didn’t finish it for two reaons.
1. The new “human like” cylons were, by the definition of human, actually human. They could even procreate with “real” humans. They were really all the equivalent of “manchurian candidates”. It also means the Cylons had developed the godlike capability of creating humans. Beyond the silly implications of this is the fact that if they really had done this, their entire strategy would have changed since they need only do to the human race what the Muslims are doing to europe.

2. Things happened way too slow. This one was the killer. I got the distinct impression I was being strung along so I’d stay until the next commercial. I hate being maniuplated.

Interestingly, a friend loaned me a copy of the entire Firefly series and I LOVED it. I own it now ahd have seen the whole thing several times. I also own Serenity and likewise have seen it several times. The stories are wonderful, engaging and the characters seem like “real” people. When the companion breaks down into sobbing tears in one episode, simply amazing...


102 posted on 01/20/2009 9:59:59 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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