I have been a lurker on FR for a couple of years and this is my first posted reply. I believe the problem with the voters of this country is a direct result of the very poor education the children have and are getting. They don’t even understand the difference between a republic and a democracy. What are they teaching in civics anyway? How can we expect any ethics when there is no ethics taught? I must say we do have a severely stacked deck when the children become adults and only learn how bad the country has been. Shame on the teachers!
Have you ever held discussions w/ these “teachers?” some of my friends’ parents are teachers as well as some of my college grad friends and they are certainly not the brightest bulbs in box... of course you do have some that are intelligent but they are blind to the truth and teach exactly what they are taught - never straying away or researching to think for themselves just like lemmings. One of my friends who is a teacher talked to me about the election beforehand and he said he didn’t know everything I was telling him and agreed that I was probably right but it didn’t matter because he is part of the union so he is liberal and will continue to vote and teach that way... good to know right?
You’re right AR. The new public school generations are a growing demographic problem. To appeal for their votes we have to appeal to their “trendiness” instead of their principles or sound judgement.
We’re in a world of hurt. I remember Mrs. Lucille Eakin many years ago telling my mother that “we are on a sinking ship.” Today we’re sinking faster. Some of our best decks are alrready below the water line.
You are correct. The leftwing indoctrination camps that public schools have devolved into are a bug reason why we’re in this mess.
True. Western civilization is no longer a subject taught in our schools.
“I have been a lurker on FR for a couple of years and this is my first posted reply. I believe the problem with the voters of this country is a direct result of the very poor education the children have and are getting. They don’t even understand the difference between a republic and a democracy. What are they teaching in civics anyway? How can we expect any ethics when there is no ethics taught? I must say we do have a severely stacked deck when the children become adults and only learn how bad the country has been. Shame on the teachers!”
Sadly many teachers and profs are libs and are brainwashing our children.
And sometimes, it’s the curriculum that the teachers have to follow, and they don’t like it either.
Those who can should try to work on a school board to change the curriculum.
Welcome to Free Republic.
Here’s the liberal playbook. It’s been their goal for the decades. Read carefully:
Communist Goals (1963)
Documention below
Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman’s request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,” which she identifies as an excerpt from “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen:
[From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [”]united force[”] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
The young 0bama voters are going to learn the hard way. Of course, by then it may be too late.
You and I consider it a poor education.
Liberals consider it a job well done.
They are churning out generations of children who haven’t been educated so much as they have had a thorough liberal brainwashing.
I completely agree with you. I have murmured the line, “if you don’t learn history, you repeat history” all week and even mentioned it to the kids. I am happy that our school curriculum has a strong history program but it won’t do much good when the majority of the nation’s schools don’t. It is hard to fight against that tide.
Yes, the educational system is very much at fault for producing many ignorant graduates with a warped sense of ethics.
I live in a BIG city and see students of all ages commuting on mass transit and hanging out in general, and they are distinctly unimpressive as the future citizenry.
Couple of points. How in h e double q does one last two years as a lurker? Let me answer that while trying not to appear too judgmental. You were real busy with life, you have a day job, you have a family, BHO was not the President and neither was billy bob clinton, you were no keyboard cowboy, time was a factor, etc, etc.
Welcome to FreeRepublic and forgive the seeming incredulity, I lasted about two months and whose to say what standard a lurker must adhere to.
“only learn how bad the country has been. Shame on the teachers”!
Perhaps, but who is it that chooses the books and the direction of education? Is it administration, school board, or teachers? Maybe a combo of all three plus the workings of the NEA, and government. I’ll agree in principle that proper, truthful, documented, non PC, history and civics education is certainly one of the many faults of the education system, not to mention the wildly changing demographics within certain parts of the country.