Posted on 01/19/2009 9:58:40 AM PST by E.G.C.
Edited on 01/19/2009 10:46:59 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
WASHINGTON In his final acts of clemency, President George W. Bush on Monday commuted the prison sentences of two former U.S. Border Patrol agents whose convictions for shooting a Mexican drug dealer ignited fierce debate about illegal immigration.
Bush's decision to commute the sentences of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, who tried to cover up the shooting, was welcomed by both Republican and Democratic members of Congress. They had long argued that the agents were merely doing their jobs, defending the American border against criminals. They also maintained that the more than 10-year prison sentences the pair was given were too harsh.
Rancor over their convictions, sentencing and firings has simmered ever since the shooting occurred in 2005.
Ramos and Compean became a rallying point among conservatives and on talk shows where their supporters called them heroes. Nearly the entire bipartisan congressional delegation from Texas and other lawmakers from both sides of the political aisle pleaded with Bush to grant them clemency.
Bush didn't pardon the men for their crimes, but decided instead to commute their prison sentences because he believed they were excessive and that they had already suffered the loss of their jobs, freedom and reputations, a senior administration official said.
The action by the president, who believes the border agents received fair trials and that the verdicts were just, does not diminish the seriousness of their crimes, the official said...................."
Glad anyway that these two poor guys are or will be free and I feel good for their families. Just a few days ago there was a letter--think on WND--by Jose Compean, to all of us in thanks for our efforts to win their freedom. It was so sad.
Agreed.
Try the following regarding federal:
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa081402a.htm
In Texas they have to get clearance from a court if I remember correctly. They can restore their voting rights after serving their sentence, fines, and supervised release time.
A day late and a dollar short. Scooter Libby didn’t wait until January 19th.
Bush pardoned dope smugglers (one rapper had 31 pounds of liquid cocaine on him) before these 2 agents.
There is no federal law that says so. There might be laws in some states, but I'm not aware of them.
Agreed. If he had asked Cheney to step down so that the GOP could groom a worthy successor, we would not have been stuck with McLame as our nominee. It's the duty of a successful President to ensure the continuation of his legacy. I could forgive GWB for forgetting that, if it had not happened to his own father.
I can see holding off on the commutation until after the election, but the day after, they should have been sprung free. As it stands, they won't get out for a little while, no doubt they've been terrorized in prison by criminals. I just hope that the corrections officers have been looking out after them.
Letting the Fed put the pedal to the metal on interest rates during the first term was the cause of the present financial difficulty. Not keeping an eye on the true status of the economy was the failing that undid Bush's legacy in at least the near term.
Let my people go!
Pouring out the half full cup?
Or has it always been empty?
Guess you will be very happy with a Democrat for president these next four years.
Reading only what your want? I SAID there were some things I didn’t like about what President Bush did. I just didn’t dump every thing in the trash because I didn’t like some things.
I can name things that Reagan did too that I DID NOT like.
Equally I didn’t “empty the glass” then either.
But as I noted, some only want to remember OR read what they want and leave the rest.
It’s about time.
At least Bush will leave office having done the right thing (on this issue).
Beat Obama to the punch.
WHERE IS THE COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE???
To me the most petty aspect of the president's action is the fact that he didn't commute their sentence to time served so they could be released immediately.
They won't be released until March 20 and they still have to serve three-year terms of supervised release and they still have to pay the fines that were a part of their sentences.
The president just couldn't bring himself to do the 100% right thing for these two persecuted men. Some compassion.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j6mH44rWD9yyZf_AZ7YxQDVFL7WwD95QGVU80
"Under the terms of Bush's commutation, their prison sentences will expire on March 20, but their three-year terms of supervised release and the fines will remain intact."
"During his presidency, Bush has granted a total of 189 pardons and 11 commutations. That's fewer than half as many as Presidents Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan issued during their two-term tenures. Bush technically has until noon on Tuesday when President-elect Barack Obama is sworn into office to exercise his executive pardon authority, but presidential advisers said no more were forthcoming."
Clinton issued a total of 457 pardons or commutations in eight years in office. Bush's father, George H. W. Bush, issued 77 in four years. Reagan issued 406 in eight years, and President Jimmy Carter issued 563 in four years. Since World War II, the largest number of pardons and commutations 2,031 came from President Harry Truman, who served 82 days short of eight years.
On the contrary. GW Bush was very loyal... to his friend Johnny Sutton who engaged in Nifongism in this case to see that these men were convicted and that the jury was denied basic information (such as that the star witness, the man who’d been shot, had violated his own immunity agreement when he was caught yet AGAIN smuggling dope into the country).
thanks interesting.
Couldn't agree more. A petulent slap in the face of two guys who didn't deserve such treatment. Even worse, Bush demonstrated no empathy whatever for the families who have suffered more than enough.
So much for "compassionate conservatism".
Agreed. But I can understand why he waited until the last minute. Because if he had commuted their sentences months or years ago, there would have been a second campaign launched to pressure him to change the commutes to pardons.
I know this Johnny Sutton persecution very well.
Did you ever support W?
That's why it's such an embarrassment, I was a "broken glass Republican" for Bush and then he turned out to be such a poor president.
He never let Scooter go to jail - he commuted him right after his sentencing. That was one of the problems — the guy that was in the administration got a get out of jail free card, but these frontline grunt fellows got to spend a couple of years in prison, where they are targets, and have generally been treated like Shiite.
I’m pretty sure they have been held for political reasons, and to keep them silent, so I pray they get out safe, and that they speak out as soon as they’re released.
I’m pretty sure they’re going to be OK careerwise. There is no shortage of people who would be willing to help these guys, as many people know the truth.
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