Posted on 01/18/2009 3:45:22 PM PST by rabscuttle385
If God would let me bet, I would bet every dime I have that the Republicans will move even further left in the next four years.
You dislike the GOP now wait a few years!
The elephant is dead, time for conservatives to bury it and start over.
But another party may not be the best answer. A National and state conservative voter groups. A list of say 15 conservative platforms and a set of values that are written in stone. Conservatives join by agreeing they will vote as a block for the candidate that meets these platforms and values. After each election each member confirms who they voted for or that there was not any conservative candidate so they did not vote. If a candidate wants conservative votes he or she knows exactly how to get them. It would take massive numbers of conservatives in each state, but that is how you get a conservative congress and President.
Wull, gud! I wuz in PISMO BEACH checkin out Hewell Howser’s monarch butterflies hangin in intercourse clusters from eucalyptus branches!!! Ha Ha Ha!!!
the man is a senator he has a state not a dist and he deserves to be reelected in his seat if he chooses to run again for senate
He deserves to be reelected, we are still on about Mccain right?
The sooner him, Graham etc have got out of the party the better.
I hope he doesn’t run again but if he does then I hope the a decent conservative person runs against him
I can only conclude you are a fan of Mccain right?
“I am with groups who counter the left”
So you aren’t a Republican?
Third Party is also part of the left.
Anti War, Third Party Truthers, Just as the Marxists.
Many Third Party Loons also support amnesty, abortion, close Gitmo.
To bad you folks support Obama on many fronts.
All the libs have to do switch parties, vote republican in the primary and for the democrat in the general election.
Voting across party lines is allowed in the general election.
In other words, if you aren't Republican, you're part of the left. And, if you're part of the left, you obviously aren't conservative. Thus, it follows that if you aren't Republican, you aren't a conservative.
I'll let the rest of the folks being pinged sort this mess out.
So far you have live your life according to text books.
I have spent decades working in both administrative and many yrs. in the legal field, several decades of work and interest in politics and foreign affairs.
Live in a large city including it being the largest concentrtion of military in the world.
When you get out in the real world, especially years of it,
you will appreciate the Conservative Republican views and reality.
I have many relatives in their 20s and 30s, college degrees, families and have spent several tours in Iraq and Afgh. Two are leaving in weeks for Afgh.
They know why we are in the war and Not hiding behind some
halfbaked party with a bunker mentality, believing 9/11 was an inside job as the third party leaders and their lemmings do.
I grew up in a neighborhood with huge numbers of people who were just 5 yrs or so out of the Nazi concentration camps. Have known many who escaped from Communism.
I appreciate what they lived in having been in East Germany in the early 1980s.
I am a Reagan Republican, and can appreciate him when he was my Gov. and President. Am glad I had the opportunity
to work for him in his first campaign.
There are many good Republicans who I see who have his views and values.
These are the ones who with support can have a chance to beat the Democrats.
Third party gave us Clinton and if Franken wins, they did their damage also.
A third party will always receive 1 to possibly 6% of the
vote. Just enough to throw an election to the Democrat.
But then again that is the idea as they share anti war and so many other views.
I live in a nation where I still have the choice of voting for WHOEVER I want.
You are so quick to misjudge me. How sad.
Republican and conservative are not the same thing. Try thinking about that for once.
As for the rest of your post, I'm beginning to wonder if you're part of that group of Freepers that looks down on civilians with no military experience.
“the party apparatus are arrogant and view conservatives in much the same way that liberal Democrats do.”
That is a very preceptive statement, might I add “their constituents” to the end? I believe the GOP thinks, at this point, they can foist any sad candidate on us that they wish. Since they live in the beltway world and get their info from the MSM etc. their choice will always be the candidate who will go along to get along (in their opinion)and we’ll be stuck with unelectable candidates.
Until we can kill the optional primary voting dates we’re going to have the liberal states set the tone as they did in this last election. Primaries for the GOP ought to be on the same day, even the same hours and I don’t care if it’s a bit inconvenient. If a person is determined to participate in the political process they can do it via absentee voting etc. it they can’t get to the polls. In fact a little inconvenience might be a good thing, keep the uninformed and unmotivated at home.
And I have a question: Can the Republican Party deny a candidate the right to run as a Republican? For instance can those NE Republicans who consistently vote Dem be tossed from the party and forced to run as Independents?
That's very neat little psychological niche you've carved there -- "Vote for who I want to win in 2012 or you are a Leftist!". If it weren't so sadly ridiculous, it would be funny -- but I suppose that it does offer you "a hole" to crawl into and grumble when your candidate loses.
That kind of thinking is exactly what got us the "John McCain for President" campaign -- and as of today, also got us "President Obama".
It's said that the definition of insanity is to continually repeat the same behavior and yet expect a different outcome. Today's Republicans -- and especially those labeling themselves "Conservative Republicans" have become the epitome of that insanity.
i really wanted guiliani but he left before we got the primaries in az
he’s represented az well as a senator
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