Am I correct that Charles Murray says on 15% of the population have the intelligence needed to complete a 4 year college education?
If Canada and Korea have 55 to 53% of their populations holding an associate’s degree or more, then:
1) Their citizens are a lot smarter than ours,
2) Their degrees aren't worth very much.
Is the writer suggesting that the govt ought to be doing something about her problem?
If she’d homeschool properly, her child would already have at least two years of college between his ears by the time he reached 18. Just a lot lower blood alcohol level and much less experience tolerating leftists in positions of unmerited authority.
My niece is going with 2 years of junior college to get the lower division items wrapped up. She has a "contract" with UC Davis to transfer into a program leading to veterinary school. Her brother is a junior at U.C. Davis right now. That takes the combined efforts of my sister (30 years as an RN) and her husband (a civil engineer) to do a "pay as you go".
My middle son decided to throw in his lot with the USMC. He graduated with a 4.33 GPA, scores of "5" on every AP placement exam and enough credits to be a college sophomore before he graduated from high school. After his tour in Iraq/Kuwait, he return to San Diego. He opted for a BS in Business Administration from University of Phoenix. That was financed by veterans benefits, working as a real estate agent and some student loans. He'll be paying those loans off for a while, but is well set up as a real estate broken in both California and Idaho.
No mention of auto executives salaries here. It's "doable" without that kind of nonsense if you make an effort. My wife is doing a "pay as you go" at Idaho State University. It costs about $2000/semester plus books. She manages about 10 units per semester on top of working full time.
As an aside, my son's high school girl went to Georgetown. She was attending when the plane hit the Pentagon on 9/11. Her parents mortgaged their home to cough up $38,000 per semester. She is now teach math in New York in exchange for a discounted tuition to get her master's at Columbia. That's over $300,000 to educate a math teacher for the public schools. Ouch.
I don't see that happening in an Obama adminstration that sucks up to the educational lobby wherever possible. Some of that free money from the sky (that future generations will bear the burden of) will surely fill the higher education trough to overflowing, and will continue the spiraling costs of post-secondary education.
And we won't get too many nurses, doctors and engineers out of it, all we'll have is a bunch of burger flippers who can quote a bit of poetry.
In my last round of hiring employees, I was VASTLY underwhelmed with the unimportance of a degree to the quality of the applicant.
degrees have become useless for determining individual qualification.
just as a note consider how much of a comodity a law school degree has become. ANYBODY, and I do mean ANYBODY, with a four year degree can go to a law school somewhere in the USA. Accredited not an unaccredited joke. There are more first year spaces than applicants on a national level. It has become a true joke.
And with the early Baby Boom generation now reaching their 60's, health care specialists are going to be HIGH demand over the next 35 years.
In my last round of hiring employees, I was VASTLY underwhelmed with the unimportance of a degree to the quality of the applicant.
degrees have become useless for determining individual qualification.
just as a note consider how much of a comodity a law school degree has become. ANYBODY, and I do mean ANYBODY, with a four year degree can go to a law school somewhere in the USA. Accredited not an unaccredited joke. There are more first year spaces than applicants on a national level. It has become a true joke.
Choice is a very good thing.
Any kid in the publik skool system today is less educated than their parents, who were less educated than their parents before them, pretty much going back to the early 1940s.
Saved since his birth, my son was able to attend a state university, paying in-state rates. No problem. It isn’t THAT far out of reach for those that look and plan ahead.
That said, when he decided to finish at a private university, for a specialized degree, that is when tuition really shot up, requiring loans.
This is just not true. My niece just graduated from a State University. She worked and payed her way. Costs about 6,000 a year. Get out and get a JOB.
If fewer go to college they will likely be smarter
More liberal whining... Worse case plan: The college experience is stretched out over eight years instead of four. In this scenario, the student attends 15 weeks of classes per year, and works 37 weeks per year to earn tuition, book money and living expenses.
Personally, I think it better that snivelers and adherents of the Cult of Victimhood stay out of higher education.
Higher education is affordable if you’re willing to save for it and make the adaptations to lifestyle necessary. It might cut into your jetski budget, but there you are. If it’s important, you’ll take care of it.
I agree with most of the posters on here, but would sum it up as follows:
1.) Do not bitch about the cost of an Ivy League education. We don’t want to hear it.
2.) A college education is not the end-all be-all to success in life.
3.) How you approach your education and what you do with your knowledge for an employer is more important than where you went and how much you paid.
4.) If a parent is assuming the entire cost of the education without requiring the student to work and contribute, do not bitch. We don’t want to hear it.
I got my degree from a state college after spending four years in the Navy. My parents gave me free room and board, but I had a job the entire time and commuted to school.
I think I provide quality work and good value for my employer, and even though I got degrees in both Nuclear Medicine and Chemistry, I have never, ever used my BS in Chemistry, and stopped working in Nuclear Medicine in 1996. What I learned in college that was useful was not how to titrate a solution or calculate how much isotope would decay over time. What was useful was learning how to think things through and analyze a problem.
Oh, the humanity!!!!
Mark
He can go any college he wants to all he has to do is tell them that he Mexican and everything will be free works that way in mexifornia.
I doubt that. The Baby Boomers who had more education had fewer children.
this woman is an idiot who has no clue what she is talking about.
my son is a jr. in high school. we are constantly receiving notices from
private colleges informing us we can afford that school should our son be accepted.. they offer
grants which don’t have to be paid back and are available to even kids
in upper middle class. as mentioned, there are state universities, online
courses from colleges. any number of ways to get through school. but
she also seems to feel that going to college is meaningless now. so, help
me out here, does she want her kid to go to college?