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Bush official says Gitmo detainee (9-11 "20th hijacker") was tortured
CNN ^ | Jan. 16, 2009 | CNN

Posted on 01/16/2009 11:47:05 PM PST by FocusNexus

Susan Crawford, the retired judge in charge of determining which Guantanamo detainees should be tried by a U.S. military commision, has refused to refer the case of Mohammed al-Qahtani to prosecutors because of that assessment, The Washington Post reported Wednesday.

"We tortured (Mohammed al-) Qahtani," Crawford told the Post. "His treatment met the legal definition of torture. And that's why I did not refer the case" for prosecution.

Military prosecutors have accused al-Qahtani of helping to plan the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, and believe he may have sought to participate, possibly as the "20th hijacker."

The United States had been seeking the death penalty against al-Qahtani and five other men in connection with the 9/11 attacks. Crawford approved charges against the other five.

Crawford, who studied interrogation and other military records, said al-Qahtani was forced to stand naked in front of a female agent, threatened with a military dog named Zeus, "forced to wear a woman's bra and had a thong placed on his head" during questioning, and "was told that his mother and sister were whores," the newspaper reported.

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To: FocusNexus

I heard they flew in Boy George for the really rough stuff.


21 posted on 01/17/2009 12:25:48 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: TheThinker

That would be light for fraternity pledge hazing. Crawford would seem a total moron who hasn’t the ability to even begin to see the big picture.

If American lives are on the line I would pull off the fingernails of some terrorist with pliers if that is what it took to extract the information I needed. This is war not some European “feel good” game. People live and die based on these decisions and they better damn well make the right ones.


22 posted on 01/17/2009 12:28:30 AM PST by WildcatClan (Obama is to the Presidency as Basquiat is to art.)
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To: denydenydeny

This squirrel-brained nutjob is torturing ME. Am I still on the planet Earth? This is way beyond the twilight zone. Like being transported into the mind of Jane Fonda or some unbearably bizarre place where common sense is against the law.


23 posted on 01/17/2009 12:34:00 AM PST by Liberty Wins
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To: FocusNexus
"We tortured (Mohammed al-) Qahtani," Crawford told the Post. "His treatment met the legal definition of torture.

So?

Perhaps some judges should also receive the "legal definition of torture."

24 posted on 01/17/2009 12:44:04 AM PST by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: FocusNexus

Memo to Susan Crawford:

When you find fingernails pulled off of detainees, give me a call. Until then, sit down and shut up.


25 posted on 01/17/2009 12:44:48 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: FocusNexus

“forced to wear a woman’s bra and had a thong placed on his head”

sounds like a regular night in any college dorm


26 posted on 01/17/2009 12:49:05 AM PST by PfluegerFishin
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To: FocusNexus
Wow.

That is some tough stuff, did he get into the fraternity in the end? LOL

27 posted on 01/17/2009 12:52:24 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares (Refusing to kneel before the socialist messiah. 1-20-13 Freedom Day.)
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To: FocusNexus
Military prosecutors have accused al-Qahtani of helping to plan the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, and believe he may have sought to participate, possibly as the "20th hijacker."

It is so disgusting to see the far left trying to generate sympathy for these terrorists.

28 posted on 01/17/2009 3:55:46 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: FocusNexus

The methods alleged used to interrogate this enemy would seem to be classified information- the exact kind of information that should not be publicized.

Ms. Crawford and CNN , it would seem, are aiding the enemy by helping them prepare their current operatives- as well as giving them ammunition in the propaganda aspect of the conflict.


29 posted on 01/17/2009 4:17:30 AM PST by I_Like_Spam
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To: FocusNexus

Through in a bathtub full of Jungle Juice and it’s a Saturday night at Tulane.


30 posted on 01/17/2009 4:32:28 AM PST by nola61 (Don't tell God how big your storm is, tell the storm how big your God is.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Couldn't agree more with your observation. My personal solution to this dilemma is to interrogate on the battlefield and take no prisoners. No cells, meals, or Korans and prayer rugs to hand out and best of all, no lawyers.
31 posted on 01/17/2009 4:34:18 AM PST by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: FocusNexus

My heart just breaks for poor Mohammed.


32 posted on 01/17/2009 4:34:32 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: FocusNexus
"forced to wear a woman's bra and had a thong placed on his head"

Guys pay good money for that at The Bunny Ranch.

33 posted on 01/17/2009 4:35:11 AM PST by Pylon (You are gonna spend 20 dollars every month on paper towels anyway)
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To: FocusNexus

President Bush says susan is lying.

LLS


34 posted on 01/17/2009 5:23:27 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: FocusNexus

The interrogation log is found here:

http://ccrjustice.org/files/Publication_AlQahtaniLog.pdf

He was uncooperative from the start, constantly refusing food and water. The naked-in-front-of-females is found at Dec. 20, 2002 at 22:00 hours. I didn’t bother searching for the thong or bra incidents. His vital signs were monitored constantly. He was subjected to a lot of sleep deprivation but he also caused a lot of his own discomfort by refusing food and water.


35 posted on 01/17/2009 5:27:19 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.

If you ask me, it sounds like a high-end dinner party in San Francisco or Hollywood.


36 posted on 01/17/2009 5:31:03 AM PST by Toespi
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To: FocusNexus

Using the CNN definition of the term, I would be truly disappointed if this was the only “torture” that was conducted by the Bush administration.


37 posted on 01/17/2009 6:13:27 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: FocusNexus

The terrorists are trained to claim torture, true or not.


38 posted on 01/17/2009 6:34:51 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: FocusNexus

You know, I would like to hear Mccain’s take on this torture. I’ll bet he would have jumped at the chance to be tortured like that in Viet Nam.


39 posted on 01/17/2009 6:35:21 AM PST by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: FocusNexus
"forced to wear a woman's bra and had a thong placed on his head" during questioning

Sounds like they're getting closer to the Grey_Whiskers Interrogation MethodTM:

Interrogator: We don't wish to hurt you, but we must take extreme measures to get information from you.

Detainee: (spits) You'll get nothing from *me*, infidel.

Interrogator: We have some *used* women's underwear. We are going to ask you some questions, first. Depending on your answers, we are going to put the panties on your head.

Detainee: I am not afraid!

Interrogator: Ah, but the choice is not whether you have the underwear on your head or not. You will do that anywway. Did I tell you we have two sets of underwear?

Detainee: I fear nothing, infidel swine!

Interrogator: If you cooperate with us, you will wear these panties. Heidi Klum wore them.

But if you do not cooperate...







HELEN THOMAS!!!!!

Detainee: (sings like a canary)

40 posted on 01/17/2009 6:41:07 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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