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They are going to need a draft, with the lack of c onfidence there is in Obama as a CinC, and the filthy pervert DimoDeviates, about to pervi-tize the military....

Their retention rate is about to fall through the floor, and we will no doubt witness a lot of officers resigning their commishions in the next year or two.

What self respecting warrior would want to serve in such a depraved "military"?

1 posted on 01/15/2009 9:07:15 AM PST by DGHoodini
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They should introduce a bill to draft people who do not pay taxes on vacation villas.


2 posted on 01/15/2009 9:08:14 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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Just wait until he proposes a draft for the Obama Jungend.
3 posted on 01/15/2009 9:09:31 AM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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This will be very interesting to see how the left/libs will handle the idea and possibility of themselves or those they know and love being drafted. Mmmmm, interesting indeed.


4 posted on 01/15/2009 9:09:53 AM PST by cubreporter
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This will be very interesting to see how the left/libs will handle the idea and possibility of themselves or those they know and love being drafted. Mmmmm, interesting indeed.


5 posted on 01/15/2009 9:09:56 AM PST by cubreporter
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If Rangel was white he would have been run out of office by now.


6 posted on 01/15/2009 9:09:57 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The US Chamber of Commerce is really the Anti-American Collective of Communists)
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from the Heritage Foundation:

long, but good read, here is an excerpt:

Who Serves in the U.S. Military? The Demographics of Enlisted Troops and Officers
by Shanea Watkins, Ph.D. and James Sherk
Center for Data Analysis Report #08-05

Interactive U.S. map of troop representation levels

Who serves in the active-duty ranks of the U.S. all-volunteer military? Conventional wisdom holds that military service disproportionately attracts minorities and men and women from disadvan­taged backgrounds. Many believe that troops enlist because they have few options, not because they want to serve their country. Others believe that the war in Iraq has forced the military to lower its recruiting standards.

Previous Heritage Foundation studies that exam­ined the backgrounds of enlisted personnel refute this interpretation.[1] This report expands on those studies by using an improved methodology to study the demographic characteristics of newly commissioned officers and personnel who enlisted in 2006 and 2007.

Any discussion of troop quality must take place in context. A soldier’s demographic characteristics are of little importance in the military, which val­ues honor, leadership, self-sacrifice, courage, and integrity—qualities that cannot be quantified. Nonetheless, any assessment of the quality of recruits can take place only on the basis of objec­tive criteria. Demographic characteristics are a poor proxy for the quality of those who serve in the armed forces, but they can help to explain which Americans volunteer for military service and why.

Based on an understanding of the limitations of any objective definition of quality, this report com­pares military volunteers to the civilian population on four demographic characteristics: household income, education level, racial and ethnic back­ground, and regional origin. This report finds that:

1. U.S. military service disproportionately attracts enlisted personnel and officers who do not come from disadvantaged backgrounds. Previous Her­itage Foundation research demonstrated that the quality of enlisted troops has increased since the start of the Iraq war. This report demon­strates that the same is true of the officer corps.
2. Members of the all-volunteer military are sig­nificantly more likely to come from high-income neighborhoods than from low-income neighborhoods. Only 11 percent of enlisted recruits in 2007 came from the poorest one-fifth (quintile) of neighborhoods, while 25 per­cent came from the wealthiest quintile. These trends are even more pronounced in the Army Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) pro­gram, in which 40 percent of enrollees come from the wealthiest neighborhoods—a number that has increased substantially over the past four years.
3. American soldiers are more educated than their peers. A little more than 1 percent of enlisted per­sonnel lack a high school degree, compared to 21 percent of men 18–24 years old, and 95 percent of officer accessions have at least a bachelor’s degree.
4. Contrary to conventional wisdom, minorities are not overrepresented in military service. Enlisted troops are somewhat more likely to be white or black than their non-military peers. Whites are proportionately represented in the officer corps, and blacks are overrepresented, but their rate of overrepresentation has declined each year from 2004 to 2007. New recruits are also disproportionately likely to come from the South, which is in line with the history of South­ern military tradition.


7 posted on 01/15/2009 9:11:26 AM PST by machogirl (taglines are like shoes: if you're a gal, you can never have too many)
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It’d be lousy for the military - I know, the one I joined took draftees - and so I hope it dies in obscurity as it’s likely to. But if it does not a whole lot of young Obama enthusiasts are going to have their noses rubbed in change they had better believe in. And they won’t be blaming Bush for it, either.


8 posted on 01/15/2009 9:11:31 AM PST by Billthedrill
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From the website of the Workers World Party:

"Workers World Party values our close, comradely relations with the Workers Party of Korea very highly. We are proud to have known Kim Il Sung as a great leader and a comrade in the international communist movement. ..."

With comradely solidarity, Sam Marcy Chairperson, Workers World Party" (1994):
http://www.workers.org/marcy/cd/sam94/1994html/s940721.htm

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Workers World
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Email: ww@workers.org
Subscribe wwnews-subscribe@workersworld.net
Support independent news
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Troops Out Now Coalition
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www.TroopsOutNow.org

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Photo of Charlie Rangel at the podium of a March 19th, 2005 Workers World Party/Troops Out Now rally in Harlem, New York. The occasion marked the 2nd anniversary of the start of the Iraq war. The photo comes from the Workers World Party website.

Also appearing at this "peace" rally with the demonRat Charlie Rangel, now chairman of The House Ways and Means Committee, were Saddam Hussein lawyer, Ramsey Clark and convicted terrorist enabler/attorney, Lynne Stewart. Clark, with Workers World Party, started up that other 'peace' group, A.N.S.W.E.R. Clark also heads the International Action Center and was actually once Attorney General of the United States under democrat LBJ.

Source for the photos: Workers World Party website (workers.org)
http://www.workers.org/march19/index2.html

11 posted on 01/15/2009 9:12:42 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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Let them reinstate the draft. The unintended consequences should be a riot to watch unfold.


12 posted on 01/15/2009 9:12:49 AM PST by scory
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It's no coincidence that Rangel waits until after elections (both midterm and genenal) to put this bill on the table.
14 posted on 01/15/2009 9:13:36 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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15 posted on 01/15/2009 9:13:56 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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Rangel simply wants a draft because it's damn near impossible to tack your class warfare, racial agenda on the back of all-volunteer military.
16 posted on 01/15/2009 9:14:07 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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sit down Chuck

but pay your taxes first


19 posted on 01/15/2009 9:16:01 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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The Demodraft Party.

Note to all peacniks weenies who voted for “Change” - Change can be a beyotch.


21 posted on 01/15/2009 9:18:53 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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remember for rangle this is all about giving wide open access to the GI bill.

essentially the benefits of military service without the need to actually serve.

Imagine if you have the option of serving in the real military or obama’s (brown shirt) “civilian” military force...


22 posted on 01/15/2009 9:22:23 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Here are a few not-so 'anti-war' statements from the Workers World Party front, Troops Out Now:


Source for the photo, the (Stalinist) Workers World Party website (workers.org)
http://www.workers.org/march19/index2.html

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TROOPS OUT NOW: "It is time for the antiwar movement to acknowledge the absolute and unconditional right of the Iraqi people to resist the occupation of their country without passing judgment on their methods of resistance. Even the founding charter of the United Nations clearly affirms the right of an occupied people to resist by force of arms."

"We need to demand the immediate, complete and unconditional withdrawal of all U.S. occupation troops from Iraq."

"We must support politically, morally and organizationally members of the U.S. armed services who are resisting the war, moreover, we must encourage this resistance."

"There must no longer be any hesitation on the part of our movement regarding our support of the struggle of the Palestinian people to free themselves from occupation. As a movement we have made a huge step forward in this regard. There must be no turning back."

"We must work to facilitate the widest unity between all of the forces that are seriously organizing against the war and occupation."

All of the above statements can be found at this Troops Out Now web page:
http://www.troopsoutnow.org/statements/outnow.html

23 posted on 01/15/2009 9:26:56 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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“What self respecting warrior would want to serve in such a depraved ‘military’?”

The kids that don’t want to fight but still want all the government benefits that the US government affords?

Just a guess...


26 posted on 01/15/2009 9:54:05 AM PST by FatherFig1o155 (I love -- and miss -- the republic I grew up in: America.)
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She also said Rangel's legislation was not about reinstating the draft but was instead "a way to make a point" about social inequality.

Rangel has been proved wrong on this time and time again.
27 posted on 01/15/2009 9:56:14 AM PST by stylin19a ( Real Men don't declare unplayable lies)
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CHARLIE RANGEL'S DRAFT OBSESSION

Some excerpts:

Republicans understand Rangel's motive for calling for a renewed draft. He's opposed to all military actions undertaken by the Bush Administration and is a vocal opponent of the Iraq war, but he sees an opportunity to undermine the military by infusing it with draftees who don't want to fight. He is also aware that conscription creates civil discord.

"Rangel's draft is part and parcel of the "class warfare" strategy the Democrat Party uses to divide the country," says a high-ranking military officer.

Oh, and by the way, the first time his own draft bill came before Congress in 2004, Congressman Charlie Rangel voted "nay."

28 posted on 01/15/2009 9:58:06 AM PST by ravingnutter
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It would be one thing if Rangel wanted to have the draft back to improve the military but last time he pushed this proposal it was to make it harder for the President to use the military.

In the past the draft was used to provide bodies not soldiers. The idea is which ever side had the most cannon fodder usually won. The military has found that it takes 2-3 years to make a highly effective soldier who isn’t cannon fodder and is much more likely to survive and to win. Rangel wants cannon fodder not soldiers.


29 posted on 01/15/2009 9:58:11 AM PST by airedale ( XZ)
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