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Life found on Mars?
The Sun ^ | 1/14/2009 | Paul Sutherland

Posted on 01/14/2009 7:25:06 PM PST by MarketR

ALIEN microbes living just below the Martian soil are responsible for a haze of methane around the Red Planet, Nasa scientists believe.

(Excerpt) Read more at thesun.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gilbertlevin; life; lol; mars; nasa; thomasgold; xplanets
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To: MarketR
ALIEN microbes living just below the Martian soil are responsible for a haze of methane around the Red Planet, Nasa scientists believe.

Ain't buying it. PROVE IT or show some real direct evidence. Scientists making statements of faith and calling it science really pisses me off.

41 posted on 01/14/2009 7:45:38 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: Keli Kilohana

Beyond that, we already know of extra-terrestrial intelligent life - angels are well documented in the Bible.


42 posted on 01/14/2009 7:46:57 PM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: MarketR

Obamma issued an invite to the Coronation for those interested.


43 posted on 01/14/2009 7:48:31 PM PST by dbacks (God help the USA.)
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To: MarketR

it will be remembered as happening under Obama, bet on it


44 posted on 01/14/2009 7:48:32 PM PST by GeronL (sanity prone freeper)
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To: MarketR
NASA Scientist also believed that there was(is) an ozone hole and global warming is happening. If you read the article, they are not sure the gas in Mar's atmosphere is methane, thus the microbe hypothesis is based on an input that is not even an axiom. Pretty easy to understand how NASA has fallen for global warming.
45 posted on 01/14/2009 7:51:27 PM PST by 11th Commandment (2008 was an historical election - the first time a socialist was elected President.)
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To: cripplecreek

Well, it does in the sense of man. Man was formed in God’s image from the earth itself...That’s a biggie and certainly not a light statement from scripture...


46 posted on 01/14/2009 7:52:48 PM PST by phatus maximus ( John 6:29. Learn it, love it, live it.)
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To: MarketR

This is speculation, not fact.


47 posted on 01/14/2009 7:53:15 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: cripplecreek; All

Exactly.....


48 posted on 01/14/2009 7:53:37 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: MarketR

Nah. It is just NASA trying to get a bigger budget from O for next year. NASA will say anyting for $$$.


49 posted on 01/14/2009 7:54:11 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: mnehrling
OMG, Obama got a new tie!!!!!

Stop the presses. (that's an old saying that use to be said when news was only available from things that were called "News Papers.")

50 posted on 01/14/2009 7:58:04 PM PST by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: MarketR
Experts speculate that the methane is being emitted as a waste product by organisms called methanogens living in water beneath underground ice.

What would be the energy source? There must be a flow of energy(and of reactants/products).

51 posted on 01/14/2009 7:59:34 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: wgflyer

Funny, I thought you could only find E. Coli infesting the congress.


52 posted on 01/14/2009 7:59:44 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg
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To: MarketR

The microbes are actually tiny cows.


53 posted on 01/14/2009 8:00:00 PM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Exactly. Show me the microbe baby!


54 posted on 01/14/2009 8:01:09 PM PST by ChinaThreat
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To: wgflyer

“We’ve been home to martian microbes for quite some time, now. They populate Congress.”

Just below the surface, huh? Just like Sasquatch, aliens and global warming. Only this time it’s methane, not CO2.

I’m not falling for that again.


55 posted on 01/14/2009 8:02:14 PM PST by StAntKnee (I'm keeping track of failed bids, and Sarah Palin is considered exempt.)
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To: Centurion2000

I’m not buying it for a minute either. Total horse squeeze. The article is full or more speculation than the AGW shullbit.


56 posted on 01/14/2009 8:04:51 PM PST by Carl from Marietta
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To: MarketR

This is such bullsh1t. Truly “i want to believe” junk science.

They found methane. They have analyzed soil samples and found nothing.

They admit that volcanoes (which Mars has, Olympus Mons being an enormous one) produce methane.

They are just hyping this sh1t-ass belief because they want it to be true. They want it more than forcing us to give up our SUVs at the altar of global warming. They think it will destroy Christianity.


57 posted on 01/14/2009 8:06:53 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: MarketR

We are not alone... :)


58 posted on 01/14/2009 8:07:57 PM PST by hippyhater
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To: MarketR
The hypothesis is old. The report is a from a tabloid, discussing the conclusion that it's biogenic. Sensationalism.

For example. see "Detection and Mapping of Methane on Mars" (February 2005)...

Scientific Colloquium
February 25, 2005

MICHAEL MUMMA
GODDARD SPACE FLIGHT CENTER
"Detection and Mapping of Methane on Mars"

Hydrogen gas dominates the atmospheres of giant planets, ensuring that most atmospheric carbon is fully reduced and is present as methane. On the terrestrial planets, the severe depletion of hydrogen causes most carbon to be chemically bound with oxygen, and so atmospheric carbon is found mainly in the form of carbon dioxide. Indeed, carbon dioxide is the dominant atmospheric gas on Mars and Venus and it is the principal form of atmospheric carbon on Earth. A tiny fraction of terrestrial carbon is found as atmospheric methane, produced almost entirely biologically with only a very small contribution from abiotic (geothermal) processes.

On Mars, the photochemical lifetime of methane is very short (~300 years), and any methane now in its atmosphere must have been released recently. The methane release rate can be inferred from its atmospheric abundance, and provides an important quantitative constraint for assessing biogenic vs. primordial or geothermal origins. For this reason, methane on Mars has been sought for decades using increasingly sensitive instruments, but has eluded detection. Recently, three groups have reported independent detections of methane on Mars.

I will review the current status of these searches and will present evidence for the detection of strong latitudinal gradients by our team. Such gradients require both intense local sources and also require that a rapid destruction mechanism be operating. The lifetime against destruction cannot be much longer than equator-to-pole transport times imposed by the Hadley circulation (weeks), and must certainly be far shorter than the photochemical lifetime. Heterogenous reactions with oxidants adsorbed on airborne aerosol grains are a possible explanation. Additional chemical tests can help to constrain biogenic vs. abiotic production, but measurement of isotopic variations with sufficient accuracy to test origins will likely require investigations from space or landers.

59 posted on 01/14/2009 8:09:37 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: KevinDavis

Thanks for the ping.


60 posted on 01/14/2009 8:09:39 PM PST by GOPJ ("A consensus of 100 scientists is undone by one fact." - - Einstein (take that Al Gore))
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