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Titanic battle: Big Oil vs. Big Water
Minneapolis Star-Tribune ^ | Last update: January 8, 2009 - 5:37 PM | Julie Cart, Los Angeles Times

Posted on 01/14/2009 6:21:20 PM PST by Gondring

A titanic battle between the West's two traditional power brokers -- Big Oil and Big Water -- has begun. [...]

Extracting oil from rocky seams of underground shale is not only expensive, but it also requires massive amounts of water, a precious resource critical to continued development in the nation's fastest-growing region.

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Oil shale companies acknowledge that the technology to superheat shale to extract oil is unproven. They also concede that they aren't certain how much water will be needed in the process, although some experts calculate it would take 10 barrels of water to get one barrel of oil from shale.

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"There are estimates that oil shale could use all of the remaining water in the upper Colorado River Basin," said [a commissioner on the Denver Water Board]. "That essentially pits oil shale against people's needs."

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Shell has the most mature technology, which it has been experimenting with at its Mahogany Test Site near Rifle, CO.

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All the processes require prodigious amounts of water [...] Meanwhile, already-parched Western states bracing for more growth are completing water supply inventories. A Colorado study projected that by 2050, with the state's oil shale operations at capacity, the industry will require 14 times more power than is now generated by the state's largest power plant. The study's sobering bottom line: Oil shale's energy demands could require more water than Colorado is entitled to under an interstate compact.

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The renewed push for oil shale development comes at a time when conventional energy companies are being blamed for squandering and fouling water across the West. Ranchers in the region say crops and livestock suffer as oil and gas production drains underground aquifers and sportsmen complain that rivers are being polluted by the energy industry.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: energy; groundwater; oilshale; water

1 posted on 01/14/2009 6:21:20 PM PST by Gondring
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To: Gondring
I take it these people are all for Mideast oil dominance and dominance?? - and studying the Koran???
2 posted on 01/14/2009 6:28:36 PM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: Gondring
I take it these people are all for Mideast oil dominance?? - and studying the Koran???
3 posted on 01/14/2009 6:29:32 PM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: elpadre
I take it these people are all for Mideast oil dominance and dominance?? - and studying the Koran???

Yes, that would be the natural result of using our reserves first and then being reliant upon imports.

4 posted on 01/14/2009 6:30:37 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

I think we can rest easy at this point in time: current oil prices probably wouldn’t support this sort of thing.


5 posted on 01/14/2009 6:42:41 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
They just sold new leases and Shell is moving forward...

Shell seeks Colo. water for oil shale production (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2164720/posts)

6 posted on 01/14/2009 6:45:29 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Israel has reserves of oil shale and I am surprised that Shell is not working something out with them.


7 posted on 01/14/2009 6:54:44 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: Gondring

Well, if Shell can get it done for under 37 dollars/bbl., more power to them. As long as they don’t ruin CO in the process.

I’m sure, however, that Robert Deadford will be cruising in any second with the first environMENTAL lawsuits.


8 posted on 01/14/2009 7:07:02 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I would think at 10 barrels of water for one barrel of oil it is a non-starter. I don’t think it can fly..Coal is easier to come by.


9 posted on 01/14/2009 7:40:35 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
I suspect the article exaggerates a bit, is a little misleading. I can't prove it, but the way it reads sounds purposely biased,
10 posted on 01/14/2009 8:12:40 PM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: MSF BU
Israel has reserves of oil shale and I am surprised that Shell is not working something out with them.

Doesn't Israel have a worse problem with water supplies? Shaky agreements with Syria and Jordan over water rights and extraction?

11 posted on 01/14/2009 8:40:30 PM PST by roadcat
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To: elpadre
More than one way to skin a cat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_shale_extraction

Some of the down side to "oil-shale" (marl, actually) extraction are - energy use, polluting side products, massive water pollution and the issue of what to do with the mountain of rock once the "oil" has been removd.

I would think drilling in ANWR makes a lot more sense, it is safer, less impacting and makes for a lot of jobs for Alaskans (sorry) Americans.

12 posted on 01/14/2009 8:55:33 PM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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