Posted on 01/14/2009 2:34:57 PM PST by Zakeet
President Obama will end the 15-year-old "don't ask, don't tell" policy that has prevented homosexual and bisexual men and women from serving openly within the U.S. military, a spokesman for the president-elect said.
Obama said during the campaign that he opposed the policy, but since his election in November has made statements that have been interpreted as backpedaling. On Friday, however, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs, responding on the transition team's Web site to a Michigan resident who asked if the new administration planned to get rid of the policy, said:
"You don't hear politicians give a one-word answer much. But it's 'Yes'."
The little-noticed response, made in a video posted on change.gov, made barely a ripple outside blogs focused on the gay community, but that's not surprising, said those who have been pushing to overturn the ban. Not only was Obama's position expected, they said, but support for reviewing or repealing the policy has grown markedly in recent years, including from some unexpected quarters.
The end of "don't ask, don't tell" may not happen immediately, several critics of the policy said. Although they appreciate clarity from Obama on the issue, they anticipate that the demands of the economy and two wars are likely to trump a speedy policy reversal.
"The question isn't if we do it and the question isn't when we do it, it's how we do it," said Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Walnut Creek, whose 2006 bill to repeal the ban earned broad support among Democrats in Congress but did not move forward in the face of a near-certain veto by President Bush.
"I'm going to reintroduce the bill in the next few weeks," Tauscher said. "We've got the American people behind us."
(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...
Fashion Alert!- new uniforms perhaps?
this is so disgusting that it makes me puke.
The armed services have ALWAYS had a strict policy
against gays in the military. It is DIVISIVE and
does not work in trying to get people to work in this
arena as a TEAM.
YUCK
great post
good post this is something which struck me
There is NO BAN on gays serving now- as long as they do so a-sexually. As normal heteros do.
DON’T TELL. We won’t ask, We really don’t want to know
correct, they are not pushing this because they want to join, I said earlier that they went to Catholic charities to adopt knowing full well they were to be refused.
They went after the scouts and now the military.
This is all about an agenda of making us accept their perversion.
It is sad that some have the ignorant couldn’t care less attitude of so what I know a couple of them and they are nice.
After the election states voted including mine to not have their marriage legal and that was a clear message to those elected that the majority of us are not fooled and do care about this country and how it is going.
I can only assume that zero phony is doing this because he knows it will never pass or get the votes but he can say he tried to the homo groups
Good point.
I always like to ask:
1. The men in the military are overwhelmingly conservative, or at least on the right politically.
2. Homos are overwhelmingly liberal, and in general, liberals want nothing to do with military service.
3. So why are liberal homos so eager to get into the military?
I doubt the left will answer that honestly, if at all.............
What about sexual harrassment? If homosexuals harrass others and it is reported, would the offender be dealt with and punished or would the victim be punished for daring to accuse and branded as a “gay basher” or “intolerant”?
This could have been discussed already, but I didn’t read all the comments. Apologies if this is a repeat.
lets take a look at the last couple of weeks
CIA director has no intel experience
Treasury pick didn’t pay his own taxes
we have the mark rich scandal coming back up
he wants openly perverted homo’s in our military
it goes on and on
YES I AM SCARED for the next 4 years and to think he will put two judges on the bench
Ah, but you see... the excesses of President Lincoln did warrant a military coup: the southern states “rebelled” against the usurpation of the 10th Amendment.
The South had every right to secede. In point of fact, the Declaration of Independence explicitly outlines the rationale for such action. It is a peculiarity of tyranny that the central governing power always conveniently forgets the maxims that provided its own rationale for coming into existence.
The American Civil War was not about “freeing the slaves” that is liberal propaganda. Slavery was as much an institution in the North as it was in the South. Northerners are simply better at blaming others for their own transgressions, so to assuage their own guilt; a salient point that remains true today. President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863, as the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war. He did so for reasons of military strategy, so to create havoc behind the Confederate lines. The Civil War was fought because the Federal government was using tariffs and trade restrictions to economically cripple the South, while gorging the Northern coffers (sound familiar?) The South was not allowed to trade with the European nations directly. The “Civil War” - the War of Northern Aggression - is more accurately labeled the Federal War against the Constitution, because that is exactly what transpired. All the other rationale is liberal pabulum posing as history.
To explain the scheming of Franklin D. Roosevelt would require 10 pages of text. He and his administration were the proximate cause of the Great Depression, (Smoot Hawley Tariff Act, etc.) and his Machiavellian mischief resulted in The United States fighting WWII. There is little question that FDR provoked Japan to attack. Moreover the whole story of Pearl Harbor being a “sneak attack” is absolute BS, especially when we put that proclamation in the context of our own military history. FDR betrayed the U.S. Constitution forward, backward and sideways. In fact the irony is that in following the Wilsonian pretense of “making the world safe for democracy,” he set a standard of federal tyranny that few have matched, thus paving the way for Marxism to conquer this nation.
hear hear
funny you mention this as I was talking to my wife this morning about how the media gave us McCain..
we voted for Palin not Mccain, I thought about sitting it out but even though I am no fan of McCain he would still be better than obama.
To win in 4 years we have to get more of our children into the media, into teaching at schools and positions of law.
We also have to go after the pre paid credit cards which obama got millions in illegal money I’d say off Soros, Buffet and overseas.
If Sarah runs the media will be in over drive to ruin her again and this time we cannot let them do it.
How I do not know , maybe have some republicans who actually will name names in the media and we force the RINO’s out
With all due respect to his military service, I can not stand John McCain the politician. In fact, I swore a vow not to vote for another RINO SOB.
HOWEVER, I love my country more than I loathe RINOs, and knowing the evil that BHO represents (and I mean to state ABSOLUTE UNCOMPROMISING EVIL) I put aside McCain’s flaws and did my duty.
Sarah Palin made the sour medicine palpable, but to our terrible misfortune, even she could not save McCain from himself.
Another challenge for the services is that this time around there is apparently no General Mundy to insert some backbone into the JCS. Instead you have Admiral Mullen, who has never heard a shot fired in anger and whose combat experienced is dwarfed by the average infantryman returning from Iraq or Afghanistan.
Any person who ‘hates’ gays as much as many of you has a 95% chance of being a closet case*. See anti-gay church leaders and the father from American Beauty.
These anti-gay in the military arguments are the same ones used in attempt to keep blacks from serving with whites.
*made up stat
The American Civil War was not about “freeing the slaves” that is liberal propaganda.For the North, it was about Union.
To explain the scheming of Franklin D. Roosevelt would require 10 pages of text. He and his administration were the proximate cause of the Great Depression, (Smoot Hawley Tariff Act, etc.) and his Machiavellian mischief resulted in The United States fighting WWII.Smoot-Hawley was signed by Hoover.
There is little question that FDR provoked Japan to attack.By not assisting the Japanese in their war against the Chinese?
ABSOLUTE BULLSH*T BUCKO!
FIRST: I do not “hate” homosexuals”... I do despise what they do, both to themselves and to the culture.
SECOND: There is a clear moral distinction between deleterious behavioral aberrations,
… AND an intrinsic qualities such as is race or ethnic origin.
The two are not equivalent.
THIRD: There is a clear moral distinction between having an inclination towards a deleterious behavioral aberration,
… AND acting on that inclination.
The two are not equivalent.
FOURTH: There is a clear moral distinction and a vast gulf between an individual acting on a deleterious behavioral inclination…
AND coercing another individual or the society, through legislative fiat or other means, that they should give their assent to such deleterious behavior, grant it legitimacy, and thus propagate it further into the society… even to the point of corrupting the young, whose limited life experience makes them more open to seduction through suggestion and manipulation.
We will see Major Bruce and Lietenant Biff married in the base chapel within Obama’s first term. Then they will adopt a few boys, and move into base housing. Any soldier who has a problem with this will be drummed out of the military for homophobia and hate-thought. This is going to happen. Elections have consequences.
Put simply, how do you defend requiring the military to provide separate sleeping quarters, and bath facilities for members of the opposite sex if you force heterosexuals to get naked in front of homosexuals of the same sex.
Ask yourself, if you shared a bedroom with a female, not your wife or girlfriend, against her will, what would happen the first time she caught you looking at her goodies. Now imagine what would happen the first time a 200 pound trained killer notices his gay room mate checking out his package, or even thinks he is being looked at. To make matters worse a lot of “flamers” will join for the purpose of legitimizing their lifestyle and 19 year old farm boys from Iowa will resent the hell out of the forced association and react in a very predictable manner. Retention and recruiting will suffer as well.
And don’t give me that “they do it in Europe crap.” They all have tiny militaries. Our Marine Corps, “the few...” is twice as big as the biggest Army in Europe. They only need to recruit a small number of people.
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