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Obama to end military's ban on homosexuals, spokesman says'
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | January 14, 2009 | Matthew B. Stanhard

Posted on 01/14/2009 2:34:57 PM PST by Zakeet

President Obama will end the 15-year-old "don't ask, don't tell" policy that has prevented homosexual and bisexual men and women from serving openly within the U.S. military, a spokesman for the president-elect said.

Obama said during the campaign that he opposed the policy, but since his election in November has made statements that have been interpreted as backpedaling. On Friday, however, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs, responding on the transition team's Web site to a Michigan resident who asked if the new administration planned to get rid of the policy, said:

"You don't hear politicians give a one-word answer much. But it's 'Yes'."

The little-noticed response, made in a video posted on change.gov, made barely a ripple outside blogs focused on the gay community, but that's not surprising, said those who have been pushing to overturn the ban. Not only was Obama's position expected, they said, but support for reviewing or repealing the policy has grown markedly in recent years, including from some unexpected quarters.

The end of "don't ask, don't tell" may not happen immediately, several critics of the policy said. Although they appreciate clarity from Obama on the issue, they anticipate that the demands of the economy and two wars are likely to trump a speedy policy reversal.

"The question isn't if we do it and the question isn't when we do it, it's how we do it," said Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Walnut Creek, whose 2006 bill to repeal the ban earned broad support among Democrats in Congress but did not move forward in the face of a near-certain veto by President Bush.

"I'm going to reintroduce the bill in the next few weeks," Tauscher said. "We've got the American people behind us."

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 111th; bho2008; bhodod; dontaskdonttell; gays; homosexualagena; homosexualagenda; military; militaryreadiness
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To: CholeraJoe

Because homosexuality IS DIFFERENT from the natural sexuality(also called “heterosexuality” in the PC language)and because homosexuals have currently a different kind of SEXUAL BEHAVIOUR and psychology...

And last but not least in the military soldiers are overwhelmingly males...Ya see?


321 posted on 01/15/2009 5:18:07 AM PST by Ulysse
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To: CholeraJoe
You are being disingenuous or you're just fat and ugly. I did 21 years in the Navy, the type of homosexuals you say you met sounds like something out of some PC mag for homos in the military.

I got propositioned by both officers and enlisteds, was gawked at in the showers and locker rooms and I am not a GQ model by any stretch of the imagination. I did not relish the attention of being mentally violated everytime I took a shower or went to the bathroom with these pervert types.

They need separate accommodations for them because they are a different sex. Men and women don't shower together or go to the bathroom together so why should straights and homos be required to do so, this is a definite moral issue.

322 posted on 01/15/2009 5:21:28 AM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: Ulysse

You can keep dishing that line, but I haven’t seen any valid evidence that homosexual attraction is any different than same sex attraction. The military is about 88% male overall and many units have been male/female integrated for decades.


323 posted on 01/15/2009 5:26:50 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Don't it make you want to rock 'n roll all night long? Mohammed's radio.)
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To: whatisthetruth
You are being disingenuous or you're just fat and ugly.

Neither. Women of all types seemed to find me attractive, and even today in my late 50's, I weigh the same as I did in 1991 when I retired.

I guess the homosexuals in the Navy were more assertive.

324 posted on 01/15/2009 5:32:26 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Don't it make you want to rock 'n roll all night long? Mohammed's radio.)
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To: Zakeet

It is heart-breaking to watch your country disintigrate right before your eyes. But the people of this country stompded their feet and demanded this change, and thus they shall have it. Do not be deceived whatever you (or a country) sows, so shall you reap. We are certainly going to reap a whirl wind.


325 posted on 01/15/2009 5:32:47 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: CholeraJoe
LOL! Well I guess being locked up on a ship for up to 6 months to a year with a bunch of horny males makes them feel more emboldened and needed, however the bulk of my perverted run-ins happened on shore installations.

If women find you attractive, then I can't imagine how some homos who are nothing but women in male bodies wouldn't. An earlier point was made that the 'Don't ask, don't tell' policy restrained them, but once that's done away with, what's left to restrain the perverts then, surely not any morally based biblical dictates.

They should also now allow men and women to shower together and share locker rooms together, what's the difference? Rules are rules no matter what the situation.

326 posted on 01/15/2009 5:54:25 AM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: Twink

Absolutely.


327 posted on 01/15/2009 6:05:18 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: NavVet
I know some CO’s who support getting rid of the ban for that very reason. Unfortunately, there are other problems that would cause that no one wants to talk about.

Please talk about it...

328 posted on 01/15/2009 6:06:57 AM PST by Doofer
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To: Twink

I just don’t think it’s at all abnormal for people to feel uncomfortable in very close living quarters with people who they think might consider them a sexual partner, especially in in this situation where it is completely forced, you have no choice to go live elsewhere. I think everyone who says that’s not an issue is either not telling the truth because they have an agenda or they are poor students of human behavior.


329 posted on 01/15/2009 6:10:22 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: Twink
She came back from summer vacation saying her two moms sent her to a homo awareness camp.

More like a homo-indoctrination camp.

330 posted on 01/15/2009 6:14:21 AM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: Cheddar Cat
While of course other populations can be infected, the stats would indicate that a homosexual man (especially a young homosexual man) is at far greater risk.

http://www.thebody.com/content/art33155.html

Men who have sex with men (MSM) continue to be more at risk of HIV infection than other population groups in the United States. This is especially true for young MSM, who are represented in nearly 75% of all reported HIV infections among young men.

In addition, the perception that a gay soldier is a much greater risk of carrying the virus will put them at risk, as their comrades will be less likely to want to get any of their body fluids on them.

331 posted on 01/15/2009 6:15:22 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: CholeraJoe

A lot of the ex-Navy guys I knew joked about homosexuals in the Navy. I never figured out if they did it because it was absurd or common.

One ex-Army guy I worked with said that when he sees a woman “dressed like an Army officer”, he assumes lesbian.

The owner of one of the largest gay-owned businesses in America was an Army officer


332 posted on 01/15/2009 6:15:38 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: longtermmemmory

“Obama does not need a military since his goal is to surrender to the enemies of the USA.”

Ah, but he does need domestic forces to “change the minds” of those like us who disagree with president Huggy Bear.


333 posted on 01/15/2009 6:19:31 AM PST by GWMcClintock (Frank Raines for spending czar in Congress! /s)
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To: Zakeet

Someone tell me, O just can’t sign an executive order banning this can he? Doesn’t it have to go through the process through Congress? If not, then this country will be in a mess far sooner than anticipated..........


334 posted on 01/15/2009 6:20:26 AM PST by pctech
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To: Julia H.

you said
I am a lesbian, though I am morally opposed to that lifestyle and choose to take no part in it

end quote
am I missing something here? You’re a homo and on here and you’re opposed to it.


335 posted on 01/15/2009 6:23:37 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Twink

exactly


336 posted on 01/15/2009 6:26:09 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: CholeraJoe

I would be very surprised if women were propositioning you in your bunk. On the other hand, the biggest problem with gays in the military is the perception by other soldiers that they MAY be targets of a gay man’s sexual attentions. I guess in all of your military time you never got how important it is for the unit to trust each other and work together.


337 posted on 01/15/2009 6:26:19 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: whatisthetruth

very true


338 posted on 01/15/2009 6:26:55 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: CholeraJoe

because homo’s are all about sex and they are different to a normal person.


339 posted on 01/15/2009 6:28:06 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Zakeet
Clinton said the same thing but in the end, passed the law of don't ask, don't tell.

The president does not have the power to do this congress does and back then the people protested congress to to get the compromise we now have.

340 posted on 01/15/2009 6:34:41 AM PST by edcoil (Change is easy if you want change.)
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