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Darwin in the Air
CEH ^ | January 11, 2009

Posted on 01/14/2009 9:33:54 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Evolutionary leaps: Darwin had claimed that natural selection could never make a great leap, but must always proceed by slow but sure steps. Maybe if the leaps are stretched out over millions of years they are not really leaps. Science Daily last month claimed that “Life On Earth Got Bigger In 2-million-fold Leaps"...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; darwinday; evolution; intelligentdesign
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1 posted on 01/14/2009 9:33:55 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

ping!


2 posted on 01/14/2009 9:34:36 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Biology has made some progress since Darwin’s day.


3 posted on 01/14/2009 9:35:34 AM PST by DManA
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To: GodGunsGuts

Ever hear the theory of “Punctuated Equlibrium”?

(Rip! Snort! Guffaw! Chuckle!)


4 posted on 01/14/2009 9:36:34 AM PST by shibumi (...so if it's organic, where are its organs?)
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To: shibumi

Yeah. Wasn’t that how one pair of each kind diversified into every species on earth after the Great Flood?


5 posted on 01/14/2009 9:40:47 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama, now that you've caught the car, what are you going to do with it, hmmm?)
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To: DManA

No fair bring facts into this discussion.


6 posted on 01/14/2009 9:41:08 AM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: shibumi
Ever hear the theory of “Punctuated Equlibrium”?

Well that proposes to explain the lack of evidence. How does it explain the "hopeful monsters?"

7 posted on 01/14/2009 9:44:54 AM PST by papertyger
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To: null and void

Not ‘zackley -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuated_equilibrium


8 posted on 01/14/2009 9:46:17 AM PST by shibumi (...so if it's organic, where are its organs?)
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To: papertyger
Products of "Forbidden Planet's" neoFreudian Monsters From the Id Device.
9 posted on 01/14/2009 9:49:35 AM PST by shibumi (...so if it's organic, where are its organs?)
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To: null and void

Not necessarily. There is a thread here where a poster opines that Noah took baby dinosaurs, or even dinosaur eggs on board the ark. So maybe he did that the same with the millions of other species on earth. ;)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2163839/posts?page=49#49


10 posted on 01/14/2009 9:50:51 AM PST by FixedandDilated
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“Holy Cow! Your dog just had a litter of chickens!”


11 posted on 01/14/2009 9:51:18 AM PST by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


12 posted on 01/14/2009 10:13:22 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: FixedandDilated

“So maybe he did that the same with the millions of other species on earth.”

Maybe he did. No that’s impossible, because we know the flood was only just a local flood. Modern science has proven that old book to be nothing but fairy tales. So let’s eat, drink, and be merry, oh wait...... O-BA-MA! O-BA-MA! O-BA-MA!


13 posted on 01/14/2009 10:16:03 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: demshateGod

Obama? What? What kind of non-sequitur is that? Comic relief? It has what exactly to do with anything?


14 posted on 01/14/2009 10:18:36 AM PST by FixedandDilated
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To: shibumi

Don’t be saying nothing bad ‘bout my favorite movie!


15 posted on 01/14/2009 10:22:06 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: FixedandDilated

O-BA-MA! O-BA-MA! O-BA-MA!.....hold on....O-BA-MA!

I’m eating and drinking and being merry in a slush of humanism and man worship that is manifest in either the chanting of Obama or the blind acceptance of the Humanist religion’s doctrine of macro evolution: The liberating realization that the Bible doesn’t mean what it clearly says.


16 posted on 01/14/2009 10:45:14 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Myself...I've always liked punctuated equilibrium as an an evolutionary theory. Now Charles Darwin, a fellow who a lot about Darwinism, if anyone did, knew how important fossils showing slight and gradual changes to organisms were to support his theory.
Enter Gould, et. al., and out goes the baby but they keep the bath water, Chuck gets chucked and Gould is cool because he has an explanation for the lack of transitional fossils.
Wikipedia on PE:

“Eldredge and Gould proposed that the degree of gradualism championed by Charles Darwin was virtually nonexistent in the fossil record, and that stasis dominates the history of most fossil species.”

So far so good, but now to explain rapid change when it did occur.

17 posted on 01/14/2009 10:45:40 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: demshateGod

All righty, then. Have fun, but try not to drink too much, ‘kay? Those hangovers can be hideous.


18 posted on 01/14/2009 10:47:30 AM PST by FixedandDilated
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To: shibumi

Gould did seem to have the better explanations, but I don’t think Punctuated Equilibrium has become the dominant theory today.


19 posted on 01/14/2009 11:01:39 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: null and void
Wasn’t that how one pair of each kind diversified into every species on earth after the Great Flood?

No, that's super evolution.

Creationists deny that evolution happens on that scale, then when it suits them they propose that evolution occurred hundreds of times faster than scientists ever proposed.

And to make it worse, two of them (Woodmorappe and Lubenow) have even proposed that Homo erectus, ergaster, and neanderthalensis evolved from modern man after the Babel incident. This would have evolution occurring hundreds of times faster than scientists ever proposed and in reverse!

Talk about making it up as you go.

20 posted on 01/14/2009 1:18:25 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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