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To: DieHard the Hunter
China has done exactly what Japan did

No. NFW. Japan's intent has always been to make money by making quality products. The first couple of years were a little rough quality wise.

China's intent has always been to make money. Period. Reliability and quality are absolutely not in the mix. There are uncountable stories of Chinese counterfeiting, poor quality, thievery, and outright fraud every day. And there is no sign whatsoever that they have any intention to make a good product.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the first thing a Chinese company does when they are given (or steal) a design for an electronic device (let's say it's a DVD player) is to sort the list of materials by price, then systematically try to eliminate parts one at a time to determine if the thing still runs without it. If it does, the part stays out. It's left for the customer to determine that that part was there to make sure that the thing still worked after a year as other parts "drifted" slightly away from their original operating characteristics.

42 posted on 01/12/2009 5:31:55 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

> China’s intent has always been to make money. Period. Reliability and quality are absolutely not in the mix.

Remember I said that here in NZ we get the Chinese and Indian stuff sooner than you get it in the US (good reasons for that: we are a small-yet-sophisticated test market)?

I think you are still seeing the “cheap phase” stuff, just like Japan had (and BTW it lasted from the close of WW-II until well into the 1960’s. When I was growing up people were still talking about “Jap Crap”)

I have a Chinese drill press in my garage. It is bolt-for-bolt identical to a Ryobi: the castings could have been made in the same moulds.

My drill press is red. The Ryobi is green. That is the only difference. Except the price, of course: I paid $200 less for my drill press than what the Ryobi would have cost.

I have a Dremel tool in front of me, made in China. Except it isn’t a Dremel tool, just a very good imitation. Very rugged. Cost me half what a Dremel would have cost.

I could walk thru my garage and come up with quite a few more examples. The Chinese still make lousy stainless steel and tool steel, but that will change soon.

There are uncountable stories of Chinese counterfeiting, poor quality, thievery, and outright fraud every day. And there is no sign whatsoever that they have any intention to make a good product.


48 posted on 01/12/2009 6:13:15 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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