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> China’s intent has always been to make money. Period. Reliability and quality are absolutely not in the mix.

Remember I said that here in NZ we get the Chinese and Indian stuff sooner than you get it in the US (good reasons for that: we are a small-yet-sophisticated test market)?

I think you are still seeing the “cheap phase” stuff, just like Japan had (and BTW it lasted from the close of WW-II until well into the 1960’s. When I was growing up people were still talking about “Jap Crap”)

I have a Chinese drill press in my garage. It is bolt-for-bolt identical to a Ryobi: the castings could have been made in the same moulds.

My drill press is red. The Ryobi is green. That is the only difference. Except the price, of course: I paid $200 less for my drill press than what the Ryobi would have cost.

I have a Dremel tool in front of me, made in China. Except it isn’t a Dremel tool, just a very good imitation. Very rugged. Cost me half what a Dremel would have cost.

I could walk thru my garage and come up with quite a few more examples. The Chinese still make lousy stainless steel and tool steel, but that will change soon.

There are uncountable stories of Chinese counterfeiting, poor quality, thievery, and outright fraud every day. And there is no sign whatsoever that they have any intention to make a good product.

There are uncountable stories of Chinese counterfeiting...

In the last year or so they've not only been counterfeiting old collectible American coinage, but they've started packaging them in counterfeited PCGS holders. Fortunately, they don't have the hologram and the sealing method right and I haven't gotten to the level in my Morgan collection where I have to worry about getting the 1889-CC and 1893-S in MS-64...

I have a Dremel tool in front of me, made in China. Except it isn’t a Dremel tool, just a very good imitation. Very rugged. Cost me half what a Dremel would have cost. ... There are uncountable stories of Chinese counterfeiting, poor quality, thievery, and outright fraud every day.

Here's how it works. Some guy (who speaks with a New Jersey accent, hint hint) pulls up to the construction site and says to the foreman that he's on his way back from a trade show. He has all of these brand new power tools, and he doesn't want to pay extra to haul them home on the plane, and he's willing to sell them for 50 cents on the dollar ... Expert counterfeiting, all the way down to the labels.