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Why Liberals Support Islamic Terrorism and Oppose Self-Defense Against It
The Canada Free Press ^ | January 9, 2009 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 01/10/2009 3:38:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The right of self-defense is the basis of all individual and national freedoms, because if you can’t protect yourself, all other rights and freedoms become meaningless. Yet the right of self-defense has been increasingly diminished by liberalism, in favor of “grievance based violence”.

Grievance based violence is random and senselessly vicious. It most often targets civilians for brutal reprisals, and yet it remains beloved by liberals… because its participants are said to be moved by their outrage at oppression.

If you’ve seen an angry mob torching cars or businesses, and assaulting anyone in sight while looting stores-- you’ve seen the most common example of “grievance based violence”. This is the sort of violence that characterizes anything from the mobs of the French revolution to mobs across the Muslim world reacting to the Danish cartoons, to the Crown Heights pogrom or the original Russian pogroms or the mobs in South Africa to the Draft Riots of the Civil War.

The second most common example of “grievance based violence” is of course terrorism, which despite being more organized, is grievance based, randomly targeted and senselessly brutal-- while being justified by a sense of grievance and outrage.

Where self-defense is targeted and moral, “grievance based violence” is random in the sense that it lashes out at a general group, rather than acting in direct self-defense. “Grievance based violence” is also senselessly brutal, from the French mobs parading severed heads, to South Africa’s tire neckties, to the pogroms that saw nails gouged into eyes, to the general brutality of terrorist attacks which target civilians-- atrocity is the hallmark of grievance based violence.

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History repeats itself.
1 posted on 01/10/2009 3:38:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think all liberals have a secret desire to be required to wear burqas. Especially the non-female types.


2 posted on 01/10/2009 3:41:42 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (CIA Director!....So easy, a caveman can do it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Self defense. One can legitimately kill another person to protect yourself and/or to protect another innocent person from being killed. It is a simple as that.
3 posted on 01/10/2009 3:44:05 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Liberals hate America and love her enemies.

Israel is America's ally and routinely beats up on her and America's enemies.

Therefore, Liberals hate Israel and love Israel's enemies.

Plus, most Liberals tend to be anti-semites and hate Jews on their own merits.

4 posted on 01/10/2009 3:52:41 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
It is a simple as that.

It seems simple, but in today's world, if someone breaks down your front door and tries to rape your wife and kill your kids you'll get prosecuted for a hate crime because you violated the attacker's civil rights when you called him a name before you shot him.

5 posted on 01/10/2009 3:53:27 PM PST by txroadkill (I am Senate Candidate No. 5)
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To: hinckley buzzard

But what the stupid Libs don’t acknowledge is that God will NEVER allow Israel to be destroyed.


6 posted on 01/10/2009 3:59:07 PM PST by proudofthesouth (In spite of what's going on in the world, God is still in control.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Leftists support Islamic terrorists because they see them as useful idiots who can be discarded once a leftist regime in power. The Islamists see them in the same light and don't hesitate to eliminate them should they attain full power. Supporting each other's right to violence is a consideration of expediency only since what unites them is their common hatred of the bourgeois West.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 01/10/2009 4:02:39 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is simply not natural for people to root for the terrorists - the bad guys.

They have just decided that anything their country is against, they support. Without exception.


8 posted on 01/10/2009 4:11:53 PM PST by sazerac
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To: hinckley buzzard

I have met many Liberal Jews, so your argument is partially true and affirms the fact that Liberals are suicidal.

That is a more concise explanation of the mental illness suffered by the Left.


9 posted on 01/10/2009 4:23:05 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author uses the word “liberal”. They are NOT liberals! We must call them what they ARE!

COMMUNISTS and MARXISTS!

( Yes, I am tired of shouting it. The American people are asleep.)


10 posted on 01/10/2009 4:48:09 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hopefully, we won’t have to wait too long for sniveling liberals to become targets.


11 posted on 01/10/2009 4:50:09 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: wintertime

Or they could be called progressive passivist secular humanists...suicidal and lazy.


12 posted on 01/10/2009 4:57:18 PM PST by waterhill (An armed man has the means for independence.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberals are opposed to the concept of self defense by any in the west.

They are antigun in the US for this reason.


13 posted on 01/10/2009 4:59:28 PM PST by NoLibZone (Islam must be completely eradicated from the face of the Earth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Liberals routinely reject both individual and national rights in favor of group and class rights.

The entire article is worth reading. It is an exposition of the source of the seeming double standard on the part of "progressives," and I use that term advisedly. The idea is simply that revolutionary violence is justified, its propagators given unlimited moral sanction, and its victims without either the rights of redress or self-defense. This is not an exaggeration, and the doctrine's adherents are not amenable to reason.

They are, however, among the first against the wall in a real revolution. And revolutionary violence is controllable by the proverbial "whiff of grapeshot" but the fellow pulling the lanyard always has his own agenda.

14 posted on 01/10/2009 5:03:46 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: wintertime

Thank you. You are right, most of the old liberals are long gone. These new fanatics are Marxist and Communists


15 posted on 01/10/2009 5:43:36 PM PST by mojitojoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
An excellent article!

Bump!

16 posted on 01/10/2009 5:51:01 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayo'mer Mosheh, 'Asurah-na' ve'er'eh 'et-hamar'eh hagadol hazeh; maddu`a lo'-yiv`ar haseneh.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Clemenza; rmlew; neverdem; PARodrig; nutmeg; firebrand; Reaganite1984

There are no “liberals” any more. These people are progressives, code word for communists. Call them what they really are. They love islamists because fanatics are easier to convert to communists. Hitler noted in Mein Kampf that communists made the best nazis because they could easily migrate from one ideology to the other, they were the right personality type.


17 posted on 01/10/2009 6:13:22 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's very basic to the Leftist mind-set.

Much of the Leftists ability to pressure depends on the ability to threaten mob action. "Do this or you risk riots". "Do this or you will have a screaming mob ripping apart your building or home".

Screaming mobs run away at the threat of being fired upon, and both sides know it.

18 posted on 01/11/2009 7:10:31 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We used to institutionalize the insane. Now we elect them.)
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To: Cacique
“Liberal” is the LAST thing those people should be called, it implies they advocate Liberty - No Freaking way.

Communist, Socialist, Fascist, Marxist, Progressive..... on and on... the fact is the Leftists always have had to repackage themselves to cover up the Absolute Failure of their collectivist philosophy.

It's always been the same theory, but each time it FAILS, they need to describe it differently to sell it again.

There is a difference between Socialist and Communist,

Communism is where the Proletariat(the 'Workers') overthrown the Bourgeois(the 'Rich') in a glorious revolution that births a wonderful new 'workers paradise' – that turns into hell holes like the old Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba...

Socialism is where the Proletariat incrementally take over and create a wonderful workers paradise like France, Great Britain........ sign.. the US....

Fascism and Socialism are the same thing – Note the term 'NAZI' – translates to the National SOCIALIST Workers party

Each time the experiment is an UTTER Failure, and each time they have to name it something new in order to 'Give it a go'

19 posted on 01/11/2009 8:20:33 AM PST by Bryce12ga (Leftist really are a special kind of STUPID)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
".....in the liberal worldview, violence is divided into oppressive and revolutionary violence. Oppressive violence is a function of class privilege, where revolutionary violence is a form of revolutionary justice. So that in the liberal calculus, the middle class homeowner protecting his house from a mob, is practicing “oppressive violence”, while the mob is practicing “revolutionary justice”.

Understanding this is the most vital part of understanding liberal morality, or lack thereof. Class or group status, defines whether violence is legitimate or not, in the eyes of the liberal....."

FReepers need to let this sink in, then maybe they would realize why liberals are so committed to eliminating our individual 2nd Amendment rights.

20 posted on 01/16/2009 6:26:04 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Four days until America as we know it will irrevocably CHANGE for the worse.)
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