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Abortion heresy: Illogical positions lead to revealing slips of the tongue
WORLD ^ | January 17, 2009 | Marvin Olasky

Posted on 01/10/2009 5:05:24 AM PST by rhema

A pro-abortion culture requires eternal vigilance. Heresy can sneak through. The New York Times has for four decades maintained abortion orthodoxy, but an editor should be fired for not cutting out a tender dialogue in the next-to-last paragraph of a 7,500-word lead story in the newspaper six weeks ago.

Let me set the scene: A husband and a wife have had 15 failed pregnancies and in vitro fertilization non-starters. Author Alex Kuczynski, a fine writer, comes perilously close to falling off the cliff when she describes a "fetus" that didn't make it past 10 weeks as "a small dead baby" and quotes a nurse as telling her, "In case you were interested, it was a girl." But she quickly regains her footing and writes, "I was not, in fact, interested in attaching a gender to the coagulation of cells, briefly and potentially human. . . ."

Kuczynski and her husband then decide to hire a surrogate mother to bear their child. They chose one "not so different from us. Later, during the election season, she and I were unaccountably pleased to learn that we were both planning to vote for Obama." The article proceeds with great specific detail about the emotions involved as the author's baby grows in another woman's womb. When baby Max is born, the author notes "the mind-bending philosophical weirdness of it all: there is our baby—coming out of her body."

A month later Kuczynski is sitting with her baby on her back porch in the Hamptons. She wonders whether she has, in a sense, cheated to have him. Here's the offending section: "My husband came out and sat next to me. He took my hand. 'You gave birth to our baby,' he told me. 'The doctors went in and took our baby out of you 10 months ago.' He was casting back to the day the doctor removed my eggs. 'It was like a C-section. They just went in and got him when he was very small.'"

Excuse me? Technically the husband is incorrect, in that what doctors removed from his wife was an egg that had not yet encountered a paternal sperm. But his poetic wisdom is solid: It was like a C-section bringing out a tiny baby. And if that's the way it is, then maybe we shouldn't be cavalier about killing small creatures for embryonic stem-cell research, especially when scientists have discovered that adult stem cells are as likely (maybe more so) to work well in healing some sicknesses. Maybe we shouldn't think of a 10-week-old unborn child as merely a potentially human coagulation of cells. Maybe we shouldn't have legal abortion of older coagulations.

Two positions on abortion are logically consistent. One states, with biblical objectivity, that the killing of small human beings, whether born or unborn, should be illegal. The other, as espoused by Princeton's Peter Singer and others, is subjective: Small human beings dependent on others gain rights only as their needed protectors give them. This means that not only abortion but infanticide up to toddler stage should be legal.

This is not to say that Americans can't come at least temporarily to an illogical middle position. Most Europeans have. In France, for example, abortion during the first 10 weeks is legal but discouraged; after that time, sharp restrictions set in. If the Supreme Court hadn't in Roe v. Wade gone to the extreme of legalizing abortion through all nine months of pregnancy for any reason, we'd now have laws that allow for some abortion but do not freeze us into Court-dictated subjectivity.

Subjectivity: Right now killing an unborn child with the consent of the mother is legal in all 50 states—but in at least 35 states it is murder if a father or anyone else kills that child without the mother's consent. In other words, our law is based on the idea that unborn children do not objectively have value unless they are recognized as children by their mothers. Do we really believe that?

Singer predicts that by the year 2040 "only a rump of hard-core, know-nothing religious fundamentalists will defend the view that every human life, from conception to death, is sacrosanct." Maybe, but The New York Times must keep up its guard if we are to achieve that utopia.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; moralabsolutes; newyorktimes; prolife

1 posted on 01/10/2009 5:05:25 AM PST by rhema
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2 posted on 01/10/2009 5:06:46 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

My head hurts just reading the logical and moral contortions these freaks live and breath. Pity the child these monsters will raise . . .


3 posted on 01/10/2009 5:22:37 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Leftist kids say the darndest things!)
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coagulation of cells...

Oh please, what woman, when learning she’s pregnant, doesn’t say or think, I’m having a BABY.

coagulation of cells...might as well say I’m having a giraffe!!!!


4 posted on 01/10/2009 5:32:31 AM PST by FES0844 (FES0844)
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To: rhema

Put all these abortion folks in a room. Ask them how many think there should be a law against child abuse that results in the death of the child.


5 posted on 01/10/2009 5:44:16 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: rhema
Singer predicts that by the year 2040 "only a rump of hard-core, know-nothing religious fundamentalists will defend the view that every human life, from conception to death, is sacrosanct." Maybe, but The New York Times must keep up its guard if we are to achieve that utopia.

I'm thinking that by then, the aging hippie crowd from the 60s will mostly have died off, so a lot of their politics will be gone.

... or the Muslim takeover will be complete, in which case, abortion will be illegal long before then.

6 posted on 01/10/2009 7:05:56 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter. Before the late bell. When I close the door.)
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***aging hippie crowd from the 60s will mostly have died off, so a lot of their politics will be gone.

... or the Muslim takeover will be complete***

Unfortunately, as long as they control the education system, their ideology will live on.


7 posted on 01/10/2009 7:26:59 AM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: rhema
Areas in which Pro-lifer’s need to improve:

1) They **must** win elections!

Winning elections means using Saul Alinsky techniques against the Democrats. They need to demand prosecution of fraud and do the investigate work to find the evidence. They must purge voter registration rolls and see that **aggressive** attorneys are available when the voting is close. And..They must demand that all votes are secure from the time they are printed to their final count.

On election day the pro-life movement must be a well oiled machine!

2) 46% of Mass attending Catholics voted for Obama.

What's going on here? The problem that I see is that too many Catholic leaders worship Marxist Liberation Theology. This election, with a Marxist presidential candidate, is it surprising that too many Catholics confused Obama with God? Catholic pro-lifers must find a way to better catechize their members and educate their youth. It can be done. Kansas City for instance offer **tuition-FREE*** K-12 Catholic schooling to all the children of its diocese.

3)No pro-lifer should ever send their child into a government school.

The chances that a child will be proselytized into the Culture of Death is far greater than they being a crumb of salt and light. Pro-lifers need lend support to any state measure that increases school choice.

8 posted on 01/10/2009 8:01:43 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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Singer predicts that by the year 2040 "only a rump of hard-core, know-nothing religious fundamentalists will defend the view that every human life, from conception to death, is sacrosanct." Singer is a hypocrit. How would he feel if I decided that his life is no longer 'sacrosanct'? He would have a quick but twisted repsonse I'm sure. but it would not act as a taboo if I unilaterally decide to off the man.

No written law restrains a man. Only the soul with the wisdom to fear consequences is restrained. The wise man has experience the fear of the Lord. Apparently, Singer is not wise.

9 posted on 01/10/2009 9:14:32 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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10 posted on 01/10/2009 9:17:54 AM PST by EternalVigilance (We are partisans only of what is right: America's Independent Party, www.AIPNEWS.com)
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11 posted on 01/10/2009 10:23:12 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: rhema
"Singer predicts that by the year 2040 "only a rump of hard-core, know-nothing religious fundamentalists will defend the view that every human life, from conception to death, is sacrosanct." Maybe, but The New York Times must keep up its guard if we are to achieve that utopia."

I plan to be alive and kicking at that time in the future. My children also have the same firm beliefs I have, and that will not change between now and 2040, so...I guess I will be a part of that hard-core group still yelling and screaming and doing everything possible within my abilities to save the lives of the unborn! I will not stop fighting for LIFE!

12 posted on 01/10/2009 11:51:11 AM PST by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: wintertime
unfortunately as long as the RNC is in control, we will not be able to place strong pro-life people in office. they have done everything in their power to put RINO's in office who have no spine. time for a new party that truly stands for the planks we believe in...AIP! the R party is no longer interested in what it claims to stand for. they want to straddle the fence and play "nicey-nicey" in the aisles of Washington DC.

as far as the masses voting for Obama...it is kind of like the Pied Piper. if the judiciary system would gain a backbone and ask the man for his original and true birth certificate, this horror show might be over.

agreed that the public school systems are a scary place for children, if the parents truly care about them, the morals and standards by which they are raised. the legislators continue to take more and more rights away from us parents and put it in government control. the lastest to look out for is the pre-kindergarten legislation, which has a hidden agenda for mandatory attendance. PTL we are still able to home school our children. that will be the next thing taken away, and private Christian education will have been maneuvered into government control through the government assistance programs.

Lord, wake up the sheeple! bring forth a people who have convictions and will DO something about them. bring forth a political party that DOES represent the people and less government, standing for pro-family and pro-life lifestyle, in Jesus Name.

13 posted on 01/10/2009 12:03:25 PM PST by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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Amen!


14 posted on 01/10/2009 12:13:31 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: rhema
Then count me in as a “hard-core, know-nothing religious fundamentalist”. Insults from the ignorant, evil, and intellectually lazy have no sting.
15 posted on 01/10/2009 12:38:41 PM PST by chesley (A pox on both their houses. I've voted for my last RINO.)
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16 posted on 01/10/2009 6:04:57 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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