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Preparing for Obama: freedom-oriented groups ready for new prez's initiatives
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 1/10/09 | Henry Lamb

Posted on 01/10/2009 2:20:04 AM PST by JohnHuang2

Washington is abuzz preparing for the anointing of Obama and a rerun of the Clinton era. Several nominees for key Cabinet positions did their undergraduate work for Bill Clinton; they are now well-prepared to do the heavy lifting for Obama. Aside from the highly publicized Cabinet appointments, Obama will name nearly 7,000 people to management positions in the various federal agencies. Resource and land management agencies will, once again, become extension offices of environmental organizations. Nearly 30 environmental organizations have already prepared Obama's "green" agenda. And, with expanded majorities in both houses of Congress, Obama expects his left-leaning vision of social organization to unfold uncontested in his version of "a new deal for a new century."

Maybe not.

Gun Owners of America has been tracking Obama's anti-gun voting record and preparing its membership for quick and effective response when new anti-gun legislation is introduced. Organization such as GOA and Keep and Bear Arms concentrate on Second Amendment issues. When there is a threat to the constitutional right to own guns, they inform their members and the members of other Freedom21 organizations. Because of their work, hundreds of organizations are now aware of and working to defeat the latest Second Amendment threat.

It's called the "Ammunition Accountability Act." It is model legislation designed to force ammunition manufacturers to identify every bullet with a serial number, which is then registered to a purchaser and recorded in a federal database. Theoretically, if a shell casing is found at a crime scene, law enforcement officers could trace the purchaser of the bullet.

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1 posted on 01/10/2009 2:20:04 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
It's called the "Ammunition Accountability Act." It is model legislation designed to force ammunition manufacturers to identify every bullet with a serial number, which is then registered to a purchaser and recorded in a federal database. Theoretically, if a shell casing is found at a crime scene, law enforcement officers could trace the purchaser of the bullet.

What a socialist steaming pile.

2 posted on 01/10/2009 2:26:17 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Allegra

Under this plan, a box of walmart 22lr would go from $14 to about $90.00


3 posted on 01/10/2009 3:33:59 AM PST by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: JohnHuang2
Cut and pasted below, Conservatives could learn from these Organizations. Groups could be created within districts or local areas ...work toward uniting them in each state. Whether the issue is about taxes, abortion, guns, the military, war on terror, etc., take action by creating groups and then bring them together as a voting block.

Gun Owners of America has been tracking Obama's anti-gun voting record and preparing its membership for quick and effective response when new anti-gun legislation is introduced. Organization such as GOA and Keep and Bear Arms concentrate on Second Amendment issues. When there is a threat to the constitutional right to own guns, they inform their members and the members of other Freedom21 organizations. Because of their work, hundreds of organizations are now aware of and working to defeat the latest Second Amendment threat.
4 posted on 01/10/2009 3:38:11 AM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: xmission

These idiots need to go back to elementary history (not that they teach that in government schools anymore) and learn why the colonies revolted against the British in the first place.


5 posted on 01/10/2009 3:50:21 AM PST by Allegra
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So the serial number goes on the cartridge casing, or on the bullet itself?

If on the bullet, wouldn’t the serial number get munged rather badly as it squeezes thru the barrel and mashes into the target?

If on the cartridge casing, wouldn’t the obvious remedy be for the crook to always pick up his brass?

And isn’t either measure defeated by people loading their own?


6 posted on 01/10/2009 4:01:08 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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And one more thought: How many bullets get expended in the United States each year? The number would be more than dozens, more than hundreds, many more than millions. Including the military, the cops, everyone else: each year a fair snootful of bullets...

...and each year a fair snootful of unique serial numbers needing to be tracked by owner, pretty much forever.

That will be one helluva Computer system that can do that!


7 posted on 01/10/2009 4:06:26 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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Computer? No. What do you think are the 600,000 new government jobs intended for?


8 posted on 01/10/2009 4:28:55 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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> Computer? No. What do you think are the 600,000 new government jobs intended for?

Hmmmm... gummint workers. Right: so even if they show up to work barefoot, the maximum number of rounds each gummint worker will be able to count is 20. So the total number of serial numbers will never exceed 12,000,000 by law, unless they add more workers.

Given your population of about 300 million, that means that there will be one round issued for every twenty-five Americans, give-or-take.

Range time is going to be a bitch: every time twenty of you shoot your bullet, the gummint is going to have to hire one more barefoot worker in order to count for your next rounds.

And if you want to shoot a 20 round magazine all by yourself, then your shooting alone will account for the hiring of one barefoot gummint worker, who will faithfully count each of your rounds and then sit around forever and ever thereafter...

...your gummint is going to grow very quickly: that much becomes very apparent.


9 posted on 01/10/2009 4:45:25 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
wouldn’t the obvious remedy be for the crook to always pick up his brass?

And isn’t either measure defeated by people loading their own?

Or use a revolver. Stupid though they may be, they have thought of your second point. The sample legislation outlaws unmarked ammunition already possessed after January 2011. I suspect that they will outlaw reloading as well.

10 posted on 01/10/2009 5:34:02 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Why do I find the Toyota "Saved by Zero" ads so ironic?)
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> The sample legislation outlaws unmarked ammunition already possessed after January 2011. I suspect that they will outlaw reloading as well.

Necessity is the mother of Yankee Ingenuity. The ol’ gunpowder cartridge — tho effective — is technology nearly 150 years old. Time to move to something different.

Like maybe do away with the cartridge altogether, build a device that fires lead spheres, and propel them by combustible gas (or maybe gasoline fumes): voila! No troublesome cartridges, fewer moving parts, faster potential cyclic rate...

That’s the sort of thinking this sort of law will provoke. Why break a perfectly-good law when you can render it obsolete?


11 posted on 01/10/2009 6:11:20 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: JohnHuang2
The only way Obama can implement his leftward march to socialism is to suppress the alternative media. The MSM has become little more than the Obama Ministry of Propaganda that will never report anything contrary to Obama’s deification. As long as word can still get out and groups can organize we have hope of blocking some of this madness.
12 posted on 01/10/2009 6:22:29 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: JohnHuang2

Socialism Ping for content of mail to CongressCritters.


13 posted on 01/10/2009 7:33:24 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (YOU can get your own Bail Out . . .Dec 18 post at http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com)
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This new ZEROBama Administraschun aint so bad….the water is jest fine!!!

14 posted on 01/10/2009 7:35:22 AM PST by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: Colonial Warrior

What’s that frog doing in soapy water?


15 posted on 01/10/2009 7:36:10 AM PST by aruanan
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To: JohnHuang2
No Taxation of Bullets Without Representation for Gun Owners!



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16 posted on 01/10/2009 7:38:44 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (YOU can get your own Bail Out . . .Dec 18 post at http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“If on the cartridge casing, wouldn’t the obvious remedy be for the crook to always pick up his brass?”
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A revolver would solve the problem or a catch bag could be rigged for an automatic. It might be hard to always pick up every brass casing. People firing a semi-auto are usually not allowing time to search out every casing no matter where it might land. In any event there is no guarantee that casings will be left at the scene. This obviously is a scheme to make things tough for non-criminal gun owners, not to catch criminals.


17 posted on 01/10/2009 9:09:53 AM PST by RipSawyer (Great Grandpa was a Confederate soldier from the cradle of secession.)
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To: Hardastarboard

Stupid though they may be, they have thought of your second point. The sample legislation outlaws unmarked ammunition already possessed after January 2011. I suspect that they will outlaw reloading as well.
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It would be hilarious if it were only a Keystone cops movie! In their infinite wisdom they have no doubt determined that nobody would dare to set up a clandestine ammo factory hidden away like Junior Johnson’s whiskey still. Oh, no, that could never happen. Truly the idiots have taken charge of the asylum.


18 posted on 01/10/2009 9:19:15 AM PST by RipSawyer (Great Grandpa was a Confederate soldier from the cradle of secession.)
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To: Allegra

I think we all need to decide where the breaking point will be, so that we all know when to rampage as one overwhelming pissed off force.


19 posted on 01/10/2009 2:37:28 PM PST by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: RipSawyer
A revolver would solve the problem or a catch bag could be rigged for an automatic. It might be hard to always pick up every brass casing. People firing a semi-auto are usually not allowing time to search out every casing no matter where it might land. In any event there is no guarantee that casings will be left at the scene. This obviously is a scheme to make things tough for non-criminal gun owners, not to catch criminals.

The criminal will steal the ammo and the gun, or buy them on the black (no pun intended) market. Problem solved.
20 posted on 01/10/2009 2:41:48 PM PST by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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