"We were finding bodies of killed Serbs every morning" (in Kosovo)

Blic ^ | 1/5/09 | N. Vlaco

[Bokababe]

Rome – Mauro Del Vecchio, former General of Italian Army who led the unit of 7,000 soldiers that entered Kosovo in June of 1999 after end of NATO air strikes on Serbia told Italian ‘Panorama’ weekly that during the first three weeks of the mandate ‘reports on the found bodies of killed Serbs and Romas arrived on his table each morning’, but that was a taboo topic they were not allowed to speak about with journalists.

‘The killing continued later but not so frequently. Those that have not fled Kosovo were under permanent risk to be killed or raped. Deserted Serbian houses were leveled to the ground or set on fire. Albanians were attacking the churches and monasteries, too. Their goal was to erase every trace of the Serbian presence in Kosovo’, Del Vecchio said......

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

Well, Fred, you've posted quite a bit here for any one individual to digest.

Allow me to summarize my thoughts on Milosevic:

Specifically, Milosevic's "original sin" was that he was a socialist (or Communist) who resisted the West's push (led mainly by Germany and the US) for the breakup of Yugoslavia as far back as 1989. He didn't want to subject Yugoslavia to the painful economic reforms of privatization, strict IMF rules, etc. that were afflicting so many of the other former Eastern-Bloc countries under communist rule.

Because of his resistance to the West, the western media painted the conflicts in the Balkans as a war of good (The Muslims) against evil (The Serbs). As such, and with strong media support, it was easy for the Clinton administration to stigmatize Serbia as a rogue nation.

That said, Milosevic was also a thief, he stole approximately 900K from the Yugoslav treasury.

[Bokababe]

"Karma is real I have no doubts. As regards Serbia I fear for the U.S.."

Me, too. I am an American. And when I fully digested the level of outright lies and propaganda we were being fed about the Balkans, my first reaction was, "What else are they lying to us about? If they could snow us on this, what else are they feeding us that we are swallowing & believing wholeheartedly?"

I haven't trusted the media or the DC machine since then, and given who was just made Secretary of State as a result of this last election, I am not so sure that I have much faith in the electorate these days either.

[TigersEye]

Fact Sheet: Extraordinary Rendition (12/6/2005)
ACLU.org

The current policy traces its roots to the administration of former President Bill Clinton.

The ACLU might lie about a lot of things but would they lie about that?

Did Leon Panetta know about 'extraordinary renditions' under Clinton?
Telegraph - Alex Spillius at Jan 6, 2009

But according to one former agent, Michael Scheuer, the extraordinary rendition programme that has so tainted the agency during the Bush administration actually began in the Clinton administration, when Panetta would, or should, have been fully aware of it.

So does he or doesn't he believe in "torturing" enemy combatants for information? There's no way to know for sure what 0 and his team will stand for or do. My hopes are not high that I will like it.

[Bokababe]

OK, I went nuts and finally found a copy of the original article & interview in Italy's Panorama magazine that this article refers to. It's here in Italian and in PDF form, complete with a few ghastly photos.

[Fred Nerks]

SOURCE Driven From Kosovo!

Interview with Čedomir Prlinčević, Director of Archives of Kosovo Province (Serbia), President of the Jewish Community in Priština, capital of Kosovo

Interviewers: Jared Israel, Editor Emperor’s Clothes Nancy Gust

[Posted 9 September 1999 * Re-posted with an introduction by Jared Israel, March 6, 2008] ------------------

The Emperor’s New Clothes Updated December 22, 2008LINK

[Smokin' Joe]

What the heck is a neocon?

Compound word? Neo="new", con="rip-off"?

[Shery]

Many tried to speak out, some even within the US military, but were deemed not politically correct.

[montyspython]

Yep, sure is... 911 d*ckhead.

[1rudeboy]

So now what? Do you win the internet? Or have you simply established why 98% of Americans cannot take Serbs seriously?

Why don't you guys run to Uncle Vladi for a hug? Oh, that's right, he's busy shutting-off your gas.

[McGruff]

This photo used to claim genocide by the Serbs,

always looked staged to me.

[montyspython]

Apparently idiots like you forget who killed 3000 Americans and what morons supported them. Thank God most people on FR are smarter than you.

[montyspython]

It was, forensics proved that already.

[1rudeboy]

Speaking of intelligence, how stupid does a Serb have to be in order to maneuver himself into a position where he becomes a distraction from a President getting "service" from an intern?

Think about it for a minute. A bunch of Muslims get together and start poking him in the eye, and he takes the fall for it . . . it looks like he could've taken a few lessons in PR before going off on his own jihad. Heck, he could've gotten some from the Muslims themselves, or even the Israelis. Or even the Kuwaitis.

Then, despite ample opportunities to revitalize his image, he squanders them all . . . culminating in choosing the wrong side in a war years later just to "stick it" to the U.S. And to top that, he expects to whine about it on an American internet forum. To get sympathy.

[Bokababe]

"Speaking of intelligence, how stupid does a Serb have to be in order to maneuver himself into a position where he becomes a distraction from a President getting "service" from an intern?"

And how "stupid does one need to be" not to notice that all you ever are is a spoiler to every thread? A half step above a complete troll? Even your FR page says, "No, I do not respect you. You spend far too much time here." to anyone who checks.

You aren't here to debate or discuss; you are here to take a dump. Do it on your own time to someone who deserves it. Christians who need armed guards to go to church on Christmas for fear of the Muslim terror we helped bring down on them, don't deserve it!

[1rudeboy]

And that's the thing: the Serbs portray themselves as victims (again, with the proper PR it would work), then proceed to act like idiots.

No one faults the typical Serb for acting in what he or she perceives to be the Serb national interest. It's just when that national interest devolves to gratuitous America-bashing (as happened during the Georgia crisis), the typical Serb should not be surprised he or she has a tough row to hoe.

[Deb]

Weird that someone would stand up and announce he knows nothing about a subject. Nice job.

[1rudeboy]

Where have you been, Deb? Nice to see you around. You've missed a lot since the Kosovo War. Our FR Serbs (for the most part) threw their lot in with Putin and Russia.

It was a tough (and unfortunate) spot the Serbs found themselves in, and they blew it . . . so much so that playing the relativism card no longer works.

[Bokababe]

"Many tried to speak out, some even within the US military, but were deemed not politically correct."

Yes, like the 30 year Navy vet who wrote to Julia Gorin, saying that he had removed his "Kosovo medal" and the Ex-Marine who Served as Cop in Kosovo who Decries Kosovo’s Religious Bigotry, Converts to Orthodoxy (if he'd converted to Islam, it would have made the 6PM news!).

The TRUTH should require a million dollar PR firm to get heard.

[Bokababe]

"Our FR Serbs (for the most part) threw their lot in with Putin and Russia."

I am an American, moron. And we drove the Serbs into Russia's arms.

[AuntB]

“The TRUTH should require a million dollar PR firm to get heard.”

Yep.

“A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.”
Mark Twain