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Just my personal opinion, but this article is twisted. My thoughts initially were 'Who gives a rat's pitute about the plight of nude dancers _____ ?' Obviously, somebody does. This was a front page article. Will wonders never cease . . . ?

Mary's Club is a watering hole in downtown Portland. It is famous all over the U.S. for it's totally nude dancers. In more prosperous times it has been filled with Japanese tourists and bent locals looking for something 'exotic.' Methinks the author may have been looking for an easy way to pad his expense account. Just joking, people. LOL, LOL ! Local editors would never accept $ 50 in expenses logged up at a nudie bar.

The meat of the article is more interesting:

"Servers suffer as gratuities, and their incomes, plummet with the economy"

I have friends in the restaurant biz. They are all hurting. I went out last evening to a great place I treat myself to regularly. The China Moon. Sometimes I eat there three days a week. Last night it was nearly deserted. Only a few tables had people enjoying fine Asian cuisine. I made it a point to leave a 20% tip.

The whole economy is going into the dumpster. Obama has his work cut out for him. Full scale economic warfare is going on. Nobody wants to address the issue. Not Bush. Not Paulson. Not Bernanke.

Russia vs. U.S. vs. China. Secret wars are going on and we are right in the middle of it. Take a peek here

Later, Alligators . . .

1 posted on 01/07/2009 9:58:16 AM PST by ex-Texan
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Hey, welcome back. Haven’t seen you much around these parts since you were proved right by the real estate meltdown.


2 posted on 01/07/2009 10:00:31 AM PST by durasell
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“Methinks the author may have been looking for an easy way to pad his expense account. Just joking, people. LOL, LOL ! Local editors would never accept $ 50 in expenses logged up at a nudie bar.”

It’s probably not THAT far-fetched. My boss says back in his days as an outside salesman he did expense at least one lap dance. But it appeared on his expense report as “client entertainment”.


3 posted on 01/07/2009 10:02:24 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I figure the odds be fifty-fifty I just might have somethin' to say)
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In fact, there’s a sign in Mary’s Club that reads, “If you’re watching and not tipping, you’re stealing.”

To that I’d say “if you strip and expect a tip, you’re whoring”!


4 posted on 01/07/2009 10:02:55 AM PST by jurroppi1
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The best example, she says, is hotel housekeepers. Most people know they are supposed to leave money in a hotel room on checkout, but it’s so easily skipped when the service provider is anonymous.

how much do you tip a chambermaid anyway?
5 posted on 01/07/2009 10:05:50 AM PST by Republicus2001
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Obama’s fault.

That feels so good.


6 posted on 01/07/2009 10:07:06 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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‘...But even the regulars are more frequently ordering dinner without a drink, saving money and cutting down on the overall bill — and on Johs’ tip.’
My wife and I adopted two adolescent children from Ukraine in 2006, which makes six for dinner when our college age daughter is home. Ordering water saves ~ $12.00 off the bill for softdrinks or tea, that adds up over time very quickly. I still try to tip 15% minimum but the service has to be there. If we have to ask more than once or wait a long time, that tip % goes down. The percentage of the tip is anchored to a basic level of service expectation.

We do try specifically now to only patronize locally owned restaurants. I want them to be around when this thing ends, and it will end eventually. As far as the chains, they will have to rely on travelers or others not emotionally tied to our area.


7 posted on 01/07/2009 10:09:11 AM PST by OriginalChristian (If you can't get Life right, nothing else you think or say matters....)
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“If you’re watching and not tipping, you’re stealing.”

If they are stealing, call the cops.

This is a lie.

Door charge, $6 beers, it all goes to paying for the show.

8 posted on 01/07/2009 10:10:38 AM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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Well, this explains a lot for a Vegas guy like me. I thought my G-string wasn’t filling up as fast as before because there was something wrong with me. Now I know it’s just the economy. Whew, that’s a relief.


10 posted on 01/07/2009 10:12:08 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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I also try to leave a 20% tip, because I know there are people who stiff their wait staff all the time.

I only tip maids when I have more than a one night stay somewhere, then it’s $ 2 /night.

And if there is a serviceman eating in the dining room, well, they should never be paying for their meal.


11 posted on 01/07/2009 10:12:32 AM PST by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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My thoughts initially were 'Who gives a rat's pitute about the plight of nude dancers _____ ?'

Did you see how she snatched up the tip?...

12 posted on 01/07/2009 10:13:06 AM PST by null and void (Amendment 28: Islam is not recognized as an established religion in the United States. ~ farmer18th)
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Dancers at Mary’s Club and other clubs report that their tips are about half what they were a year or two ago. And tips are the only income the dancers receive. Because they are hired as independent contractors, dancers don’t receive the minimum wage waiters and waitresses get.

At the bottom rung of the strip joint trade, the dancers have to PAY the venue each hour they are there (or that they take off early from their "schedule"). If they get stuck with the hours that no customers come in, the club is still making money off of them.

13 posted on 01/07/2009 10:15:09 AM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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Beth Hansen says that, until this year, men sitting at the rack on average would give her two or three dollars for each song to which she danced. Now, even when she can get customers to sit up close, the tip is usually a dollar a song.

Single moms suffer worst!

I'm sorry but I don't feel sorry for any of these people.

Good service has been scarce for years in most restaurants around here. I don't patronize stripppers, but my gut tells my that whatever bills wander into their garters are coming out of a household budget for a wife and kids somewhere.

I had a friend who did taxes for a few strippers, what a racket. If they are crying the blues, it's because they have less for drug purchases. Hey, that can be this guys next article, drug dealers suffer in recession!

21 posted on 01/07/2009 10:50:45 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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Just my personal opinion, but this article is twisted. My thoughts initially were 'Who gives a rat's pitute about the plight of nude dancers _____ ?' Obviously, somebody does. This was a front page article. Will wonders never cease . . . ?

Everyone has to play their part, at least they are working at something! The girl down the street has three kids, never worked a day In her life and gets ton's of governments handouts and now has applied for SSI. Great county we live in!!

23 posted on 01/07/2009 10:52:22 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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It’s all Obama’s fault.

The people wanted change, here it is strippers aren’t getting tips. That’s a change.


24 posted on 01/07/2009 10:53:48 AM PST by usmcobra
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This story has made me feel very sorry for the strippers. In the spirit of good will towards humanity, I think I may sneak out and spread some cheer tonight.

Thanks for your appeal to this, ex-Texan!

26 posted on 01/07/2009 10:56:41 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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Most people know they are supposed to leave money in a hotel room on checkout, but it’s so easily skipped when the service provider is anonymous.

Some guide or another suggested tipping daily *except* on checkout...

27 posted on 01/07/2009 11:07:51 AM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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I am making a special effort to tip bigger than normal because I know that the servers are hurting much more than me. That said, I am also not going out for dinner as much.


28 posted on 01/07/2009 11:14:11 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is living proof that stupid people should not be allowed to vote.)
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“I was wondering if wealthy people that have that extra little income would maybe feel a little extra compassion and leave even bigger tips,” Yarrow says. “It’s not happening.”

Do you expect it to happen when the government is going to reach into their pockets and redistribute their wealth anyway.

For some strange reason, the most pro-Marxist voters are never generous with their own money but expect others to spread their wealth.

I'm not even grossing $60K annually, but am expected to subsidize the pensions and salaries of teachers and govenment employees that put in far fewer hours, take far fewer risks and have far fewer skills for far more money. I, and a lot of other workers in private industry just like me, are getting tired of it.

29 posted on 01/07/2009 11:17:02 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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“I was wondering if wealthy people that have that extra little income would maybe feel a little extra compassion and leave even bigger tips,” Yarrow says.

See Yarrow scratch her head.

See Yarrow expect rich people to give more money.

Yarrow does not understand.

Think Yarrow, think.
30 posted on 01/07/2009 11:21:15 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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This is the kind of ‘investigative reporting’ we get when an editor tells a reporter to go collect some anecdotal evidence on the local economy — a strip club.


37 posted on 01/07/2009 11:46:58 AM PST by sportutegrl
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